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jmsokol
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Topic: Important - check this every time you set up Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 1:04am |
Anytime you measure more than 2 or 3 volts AC between the chassis of your RV and the earth, there's cause for concern. That's because you've lost the connection between the chassis (skin) of the RV and the earth-grounding point at the service panel. Once that happens, then all it needs for a chassis voltage to occur is a leakage current between the 120-volt line and the chassis. Could be a short in a wire. Could be a pinhole leak in a hot water heater element. Could be internal leakage in a microwave or inverter transformer. Once those two things happen, then all it takes is for someone to be standing on wet soil and touch the RV with a damp hand. That's when death by electrocution is a real possibility.
So anytime you measure a voltage or feel a shock it's time to immediately find and correct the cause. Please don't become a statistic. |
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fwunder
Senior Member Joined: 04 Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Online Status: Offline Posts: 1676 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 7:22pm |
You have a few options.
1) Stay away from trailer indefinitely... 2) Ask your teenage son to ask his friend to stick his tongue on all exposed metal. I would have gotten my brother to do it. I would have dared him and he would have done it. If you do not have a teenage son... 3) Start doing some logical sleuthing. In my case, it was simply a faulty ground in an extension I was using to the pod. First start working upstream from the pod and test cord and outlet for faulty ground. I use a multimeter. If everything to the pod tests good, then you need to do some more ground fault sleuthing in the pod system that those here older and wiser can help. fred
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Irish Tom
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 6:30pm |
My 2015 178 tests hot with a Fluke Meter when plugged into my 110 house circuit.
It tests hot when touching the metal frame of the RV. I do not feel a shock when touching the same metal. This is quite disturbing. What do I do now??? Irish Tom 2015 178 2014 Ford Explorer
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StephenH
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Feb 2017 at 7:46pm |
I was at Fort Hood, Texas in the 1980's. We had shelters mounted on Deuce and a Halfs and 5-Ton trucks. We always had ground rods at both the generators and at the shelters. Still though, I could see sparks going between the steps and the ground sometimes. It was apparent that some wiring had worn or something had been mis-wired, causing the vehicle to be hot. Caution is a good thing.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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mcarter
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Feb 2017 at 5:34pm |
This is a very pertinent post. I spent many years in the military, One thing that was a constant issue was troops setting up gear in the field and not using the ground rods with the generator power source. Many troops were injured. An ungrounded power source is a concern. Kudos to this discussion.
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Mike Carter
2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
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jmsokol
Groupie Joined: 21 May 2014 Location: Maryland Online Status: Offline Posts: 89 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Feb 2017 at 5:45am |
You're most welcome. My son is a trained pastry chef and I gave him a Fluke NCVT to test kitchen appliances. With all that stainless steel and wet surfaces any broken ground wire can be very dangerous. So he will test every mixer, refrigerator, microwave oven, and hotbox to make sure they don't have voltage on their chassis.
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jato
Senior Member Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3227 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 Feb 2017 at 9:15pm |
+2. Thanks Mike!
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God's pod
'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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techntrek
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 Feb 2017 at 9:12pm |
Another win for Mike!
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jmsokol
Groupie Joined: 21 May 2014 Location: Maryland Online Status: Offline Posts: 89 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jan 2017 at 2:33pm |
Glad I was able to help. Just about every electrician and technician has a Non Contact Voltage Tester, but most of them don't realize how great they are at finding a hot-chassis condition from a broken ground connection, many times caused by a mis-wired or broken extension cord.
Let's play safe out there... |
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Bugout
Senior Member Joined: 01 Jan 2017 Location: S caroline Online Status: Offline Posts: 117 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jan 2017 at 1:24pm |
I read this thread thread the day all 16 pages.Today I was called out to put a50 amp outlet in for a food truck job went fine did the rcvt test no problems then I went inside to talk to the owner since I had rcvt in hand I ran it over metal in the truck and found the outside of the icebox was hot. It came down to a home made extension cord. If not for this thread I would never thought of this. Thanks guy.the owner of the thanks you to
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Jk Aiken South Carolina 2016 178 Toyota Tundra 2017 4.6
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