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    Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 1:04am
Anytime you measure more than 2 or 3 volts AC between the chassis of your RV and the earth, there's cause for concern. That's because you've lost the connection between the chassis (skin) of the RV and the earth-grounding point at the service panel. Once that happens, then all it needs for a chassis voltage to occur is a leakage current between the 120-volt line and the chassis. Could be a short in a wire. Could be a pinhole leak in a hot water heater element. Could be internal leakage in a microwave or inverter transformer. Once those two things happen, then all it takes is for someone to be standing on wet soil and touch the RV with a damp hand. That's when death by electrocution is a real possibility.

So anytime you measure a voltage or feel a shock it's time to immediately find and correct the cause. Please don't become a statistic.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote fwunder Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 7:22pm
You have a few options.

1) Stay away from trailer indefinitely...

2) Ask your teenage son to ask his friend to stick his tongue on all exposed metal. I would have gotten my brother to do it. I would have dared him and he would have done it. If you do not have a teenage son...

3) Start doing some logical sleuthing. In my case, it was simply a faulty ground in an extension I was using to the pod. First start working upstream from the pod and test cord and outlet for faulty ground. I use a multimeter.  If everything to the pod tests good, then you need to do some more ground fault sleuthing in the pod system that those here older and wiser can help. 

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My 2015 178 tests hot with a Fluke Meter when plugged into my 110 house circuit.
It tests hot when touching the metal frame of the RV.
I do not feel a shock when touching the same metal.
This is quite disturbing.
What do I do now???

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I was at Fort Hood, Texas in the 1980's. We had shelters mounted on Deuce and a Halfs and 5-Ton trucks. We always had ground rods at both the generators and at the shelters. Still though, I could see sparks going between the steps and the ground sometimes. It was apparent that some wiring had worn or something had been mis-wired, causing the vehicle to be hot. Caution is a good thing.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mcarter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Feb 2017 at 5:34pm
This is a very pertinent post. I spent many years in the military, One thing that was a constant issue was troops setting up gear in the field and not using the ground rods with the generator power source. Many troops were injured. An ungrounded power source is a concern. Kudos to this discussion.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jmsokol Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Feb 2017 at 5:45am
You're most welcome. My son is a trained pastry chef and I gave him a Fluke NCVT to test kitchen appliances. With all that stainless steel and wet surfaces any broken ground wire can be very dangerous. So he will test every mixer, refrigerator, microwave oven, and hotbox to make sure they don't have voltage on their chassis.
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+2. Thanks Mike!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jmsokol Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jan 2017 at 2:33pm
Glad I was able to help. Just about every electrician and technician has a Non Contact Voltage Tester, but most of them don't realize how great they are at finding a hot-chassis condition from a broken ground connection, many times caused by a mis-wired or broken extension cord. 

Let's play safe out there...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Bugout Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jan 2017 at 1:24pm
I read this thread thread the day all 16 pages.Today I was called out to put a50 amp outlet in for a food truck job went fine did the rcvt test no problems then I went inside to talk to the owner since I had rcvt in hand I ran it over metal in the truck and found the outside of the icebox was hot. It came down to a home made extension cord. If not for this thread I would never thought of this. Thanks guy.the owner of the thanks you to


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