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GlueGuy
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Topic: Important - check this every time you set up Posted: 13 Mar 2018 at 9:50pm |
This explains the wiring: http://www.myrv.us/Imgs/PDF/30-amp%20Service.pdf |
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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost |
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babyboogerfamily
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Mar 2018 at 8:45pm |
"I still think the easiest test to make sure your RV doesn't have a hot-skin voltage is a basic NCVT such as the Fluke VoltAlert or Klein NCVT-1"
Can you or someone describe how this test can be done when 'hooking' up to a site with an electrical outlet? I'm not following a-lot of the more experienced talk and jargon. Thanks!!!
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furpod
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jan 2018 at 4:15pm |
Yeppers. Just about exactly 40 years ago, I bought a Craftsman Master Mechanic tool set (it was just about 3 months of my little old PFC pay..) To this day, I have never needed to replace a single piece. I did have the 3/4 inch ratchet rebuilt about 25 years ago. |
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mcarter
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jan 2018 at 3:45pm |
I've bought tools 40 years ago I still have today, I have bought the same brand in the last five years, I've discarded. I have Fluke products I have had repaired under warranty that are 40 years old and Craftsman products I have returned and been replaced. Those days are ending as quality goes downhill. Not to say they are not quality makers, but they are getting harder to find.
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Mike Carter
2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
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GlueGuy
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jan 2018 at 10:36am |
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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost |
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jmsokol
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jan 2018 at 5:12am |
I agree entirely. But in the engineering world I live in there's a saying about tools: Buy once, cry once... That is, really good tools will last for decades if you take care of them. But cheap tools are expensive since they usually break in a few years and need to be bought over and over again. I tell my engineering students to buy a Fluke meter since it will be respected by everyone on their crew, plus it will last for the rest of their careers. But companies like Klein, Amprobe and others make quality products that should serve perfectly well for most RV owners. |
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mike@noshockzone.org
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techntrek
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jan 2018 at 7:34pm |
Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual
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GlueGuy
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 9:35am |
My "other meter" is a Fluke, which I bought for the company before I retired. It's a very nice meter; incredibly accurate, and pretty much auto-everything. I love it. However, it doesn't have NCVT, nor an ammeter clamp. That's why I sprung for the Klein.
I have bought cheap DVMs and the like in the past. They are all in the trash heap of history. They usually work very well... for a while. I've had the Fluke for at least 5 years, and it's as reliable now as it ever was. But people should get whatever they are comfortable with. I'm not advocating that you need to buy an expensive meter/test tool. Get what works for you, and learn how to use it. |
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bp
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jmsokol
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 7:47am |
If you test ANY part of the RV's frame, you've pretty must tested ALL of it. That's because the entire RV frame and chassis is bonded to practically everything else in the RV. So if you point your NCVT at the wheel or lug nuts that will certainly indicate if there's a hot-skin voltage. Same goes for the tow hitch, propane tanks, door frame, and yes, metal skin.
Also, your tow vehicle is bonded to the RV chassis via the hitch, safety chains, and electrical plug. So if you're connected to an RV which has a hot-skin voltage, then your tow vehicle will also have a hot-skin voltage. Now you see why I don't like the word "hot-skin" which implies it's only the skin of the RV that's energized. In reality, it's the CHASSIS of the RV that's been electrically energized, and everything that's bonded to it (just about everything metal inside of, on, or connected to your RV) will go along for the ride and be electrically energized with a "hot-skin" voltage. Mike Sokol No~Shock~Zone |
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jmsokol
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 7:24am |
Actually, the higher priced Clamp-Ammeters have a lot of extra features you don't really need for pedestal testing. The $40 version would be perfect for most RV owners to do their own testing. Note ethat it even includes a NCVT (Non Contact Voltage Tester) function which is perfect for a final hot-skin test after plugging into shore power - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HGJAPI0/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&th=1
Mike Sokol No~Shock~Zone P.S. I've just started my monthly newsletter on RVtravel about RV Electricity. See http://rvtravel.com/electricity1/ for the first issue. I already have 5,000+ readers signed up for it, so please sign up for my monthly updates, and pass this on to everyone you know who owns or is thinking about purchasing an RV. Thanks - JMSOKOL |
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