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Topic: Which Pod should we buy!!??
Posted By: flagrv
Subject: Which Pod should we buy!!??
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2017 at 7:17pm
Hi R-poders! We are anxious to join all of you R-poders but are weighing in our purchase this week of a 179 vs a 180.  Love the full bath of the 180 but not sure about that petite table area, not so much for dining as there are just the two of us, but on the occasions that we are inside instead sitting outside, could we really be comfortable watching an inning of baseball or reading a couple of chapters on those seats!  Is it worth giving up all that storage and space in the bath? What other pros and cons could you experienced campers share about the 179 or 180 to help us make this decision?

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Peter and Ritamarie
2018 Rpod 180
Honda Pilot



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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2017 at 7:27pm
Hello and welcome!

My wife and I decided on the 179. We looked at both and decided we liked the bigger kitchen with the cabinets for storage more than we liked the larger bath. We figured that for us, we were not ones to spend much time in the bathroom and if we need to use the wet shower, it isn't a big deal. If we are at a campground, we use the campground facilities most of the time anyway. The few times we used it while dry camping, we found that it didn't take long to empty our fresh water tank and fill our gray water tank.

We do like the 179's layout. The 179's kitchen cabinets are cavernous. We use wooden bins and baskets to store items so we can slide them in and out for access. We like the pantry beside the door. I added an extra shelf there.

A lot depends on your personal preferences though. I mentioned why we like the 179. Your decision should be based on which of the two feels right to you when you get a chance to see them and compare based on going inside and seeing them instead of viewing floor plans.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2017 at 7:30pm
Greetings,  Try going to your dealer and plan to spend at least a couple hours in both the 179 and 180.  Both  take notes on your likes, dislikes of each.  Sleep on it, discuss, arrive at a solution.  May take a couple/few weeks or longer to finalize.  For us, when we looked at what was available in January 2011 the choices were fewer but we did the above and arrived at purchasing the 177 which we still have today.  No regrets, has been a great camper now with over 25,000 miles under its belt.


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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: flagrv
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2017 at 9:04pm
Thanks to both of you, much to the dismay (I'm sure ) of several dealers, we have spent time looking and spending time in both models!  We thought for sure the 180 was the ticket but then the reality of "how much time do we actually spend in the head??" settled in, really, we are camping!! no hair dryer or long term showers are important to us!!  We have lived for 30+ years in a fabulous rural area of Flagstaff, AZ, and look forward to spending more time exploring the Southwest and then who knows where!!!! We are former tent campers but the reality is, we are older now and would appreciate a bit more ease and comfort...... and donating our original Kirkhams tent to our children!  Thanks again, and any other hints or suggestions are so appreciated!  Hope we meet up with some R-pod owners soon.

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Peter and Ritamarie
2018 Rpod 180
Honda Pilot


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2017 at 10:20pm
One other thing we like is the counter space in the 179. When both of us are working on a meal, it is nice that we have room to maneuver. That was another factor in our decision. That and "how much time to we actually spend in the head??" was the question we answered in favor of the 179. I hope you will make the choice that is right for you and with which you will be happy.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: Danielw1
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2017 at 11:01pm
If we didn't have kids I would have definitely gone with the 179. I just liked the dinnette bed better in the 178 for the kids. The 180 looks nice but really you should divide the percentage of time you would spend in each area and paste it on the floor plan. Then take a look at size vs percentage. Me, I'll probably just go in the woods like I always have so any kind of bathroom is more than enough for my wife and kids.


Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2017 at 6:27am
Welcome to the group!

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Leo & Melissa Bachand
2017 Ford F150
2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk
Previously owned
2015 Rpod 179
2010 Rpod 171


Posted By: ParPod
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2017 at 8:34am
Welcome.....and a tough choice to be sure!  For us it was the 179 with it's generous kitchen area and large seating area.  The wet bath can be challenging but like you say....how much time do you actually spend it it.  Haven't regretted going with the 179.  Good luck on your choice, and there is some good advice here on how to choose, but which ever it is have fun!



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Bob&Margaret
2017 179
2016 Toyota 4Runner
2 sets of Golf Clubs


Posted By: bigjewpapa
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2017 at 6:53pm
i am trying to figure out the same thing lol.

my fiance does not like the toilet in the shower floor plan at all though.

i really don't mind either way, and always like having more room for people.

my guess is the fiance wins lol


Posted By: Richand Cindy
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2017 at 12:54pm
There was a discussion a few months back on this topic. Many people weighed in on the fact they do not like public toilets and showers.  One person mentioned he looks up the time the showers are cleaned and goes right after they are cleaned.  We did not even consider an RPOD until the 180 model came out and then it was a no brainer,  We are not campers but are buying an RV to see the country as retirees and not having to pack and unpack and find good hotel rooms.  So we wanted all the conveniences of home.  The kitchen is the least important area to us as we will rarely be "preparing" meals and dinners will mostly be outdoor grilling and restaurants.  The only negative is no walk around bed and we will have to climb over one another for those middle of the night bathroom trips (happens alot at our age)


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OLD 2017.5 RPOD 180 + 2015 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk
NEW: 2018 Passport Elite 23RB + 2017 Ram 1500 Diesel


Posted By: SqueakyToy17
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2017 at 3:45pm
Hellooo -
I just bought and rPod 179 with the rDome room and it is perfect for me (and 2 grandchildren, 2 LARGE dogs and 1 small one). Love the bit of extra room the slide out provides. The bathroom is emergencies only (night time). Plenty of space for stuff (old camping stuff plus necessary trailer things).   

We don't spend a lot of time inside when camping. The only real "TV" thing we do is night time movie (normally on a portable player), so can't really address your question on watching games. Having the Bluetooth system is a boon!   

The big thing for me was having A/C for the wicked hot days and the rDome room so the one dog who sleeps in her kennel would be protected, decrease mud/dirt flow into the trailer and we could always sit out there with the dogs if the weather turns yucky and I don't feel like doing the pop ups during short weekends. :)

Good luck deciding!!       



Posted By: flagrv
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2017 at 10:34pm


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Peter and Ritamarie
2018 Rpod 180
Honda Pilot


Posted By: flagrv
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2017 at 10:43pm
Thank you to everyone for the great advice! We visited a dealer last week who had both the 179 and 180, side by side, and with all your input and for what we were looking for, the 180 was our best choice! We are traveling to pick it up next week and already have some great trip ideas. 

Next question!!! What are some things we need to be safe, comfortable and happy?? Is there a "Resource 101" for new rv owners? Just the two of us, would like to be as simple but efficient as possible. 

Hope to see you on the road!




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Peter and Ritamarie
2018 Rpod 180
Honda Pilot


Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2017 at 5:48am
Congrats on your 180!!

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Leo & Melissa Bachand
2017 Ford F150
2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk
Previously owned
2015 Rpod 179
2010 Rpod 171


Posted By: Richand Cindy
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2017 at 6:31pm
Here is our list made taken from help on this board

RV Assessory Checklist (items you need to buy, should buy, or just some that are nice to have)

Extended warranty.  Do not buy third party.  Forest River sells a one year extended warranty for $150.00 The dealer makes no money off of it and may not tell you about it and try to sell you their version (which legally cannot be called a warranty – it is an extended service plan).  You must act quickly, as offer expires ten days after purchase!.  Call Forest River directly if dealer acts ignorant.  Dealer service plans are generally expensive and most reviews are negative.  Some dealers include a free unlimited warranty.  This is not a scam but may not be a good deal.  You have to bring you RV back to dealer once a year for $150 inspection to keep warranty active.  And then it does not really warranty the RV (leaks, axle breaks) but rather the components (refrig, heater).  Only worth buying at a dealer that includes it if they do not charge more for the RV.  One dealer who was $3000 more than another said, “but the warranty is free and that’s worth the $3000 difference!”

Brake controller – Even if TV has towing package it probably lacks a break controller.  Tekumsa P2 is highly rated but more expensive.  The less expensive the unit the more it has to be in a fixed position (i.e. parallel to ground).  It comes with wires to splice into TV however most tow packages already have the female harness so only need to buy male harness for your vehicle (around $18) then no searching for the correct wires to splice into, and you can remove unit at will.  An internet search for your TV will let you know where to find the hitch.  On our Jeep Cherokee it was hidden away and we could not find it until we found a UTube video demonstration.

Weight distribution (WDH) and anti sway

-Equal-i-zer weight distribution hitch 10,000 lbs $408  includes 4 pt friction sway control.

-Blue OX is also highly rated.  It prevents sway instead of correcting it.  It is $600 and easier to connect.  Get 350 lb tongue weight version

Also popular is the Fastway E2 600 tongue weight model.  It is cheapest of the three

-There are numerous cheaper options.  But you may not be able to back up and/or do not have anti sway, only weight distribution.  Most people say anti-sway is required but WDH is not necessary as larger tow vehicles can handle it well.

Other items

             White water hose (for drinking water only) 25’ Camco $9.97

             Garden water hose (for black water flush and all other washing)

             Water filter with right angle

             Water pressure regulator

                Y connector to attach two hoses to single water line

             Oxy-Kem holding tank treatment.  Turn off vent fan when going to the bathroom.  Always wait until black tank is 2/3 full before emptying

             Sewer hose 2 x 10’ is better than single 15 foot (Valterra D04-0275 newer version comes with clear elbow $50.50).  Reported to have less leaks than Camco model

             Sewer elbow to connect to ground hole (comes with Valterra above)

             Sewer elbow clear to connect to RV to see when water is clean Valterra T1026  $11.50 (also comes with Valterra above)

             Sewer hose holder to keep hose slanted to ground Camco 43051 20’ $22.94

             Disposable gloves for cleaning out holding tanks (or strong rubber gloves to re-use and save the environment)

             NCVT Fluke volt alert (looks like a penlight)– standing on the ground touch the door frame or steps if there is voltage leak it will light up preventing a shock.  Do it when first setting up camp and connecting electric. Not needed if you get surge protection (see below)

             Tire leveling plastic with chock for under tires

             Plastic pads for stabilizers (Do not use wood)

             Lock for trailer hitch to prevent someone from stealing your RV when left alone unhooked

             Leveling guides. One type goes on hitch and turns to tell you how many inches to raise RV. Other types stick to side walls.

             Propane tank gauge.  May need to get second tank but try it first with one tank.

             Bug and rodent screens – Spiders in furnace, refrigerator and hot water heater can do damage.  Need to get screens for all vents.  Camco 42154 for Dometic refrigerator Pack of 6 vents $15.88.  Camco 42141 furnace vent screen 2 Pack $10.86. Camco 42145 Large screen for water heater $16.00

             Lawn mat (Do not use plastic grass – stays wet) use porous material made for RVing

             Dust broom with pan

             Lanterns and flashlight

             Spare fuses

             BBQ Grill –  can get propane now that 2017.5 RV has quick connector

             Propane hose extension 10 foot Camco $21.26 (not the standard size 3/8”).  Wiil need a bunch of adapters to fit your grill.

             Sticky mats to keep things on the counter

             Wood dowels to keep windows closed and locked – so they do not open during drives

             Expandable drapery rods to put in refrigerator to hold food in place

             Oxygenics  BodySpa RV shower kit – white (Model ETL26781) Amazon $31.13.  Sends water at higher pressure thus using less water for a shower.  Great product reviews, really works. Made for RV

Replace mattress

-11” NuForm Quilted pillow top memory foam short queen 60 x 74 (RPOD  is 74”) RV size $258 price raised to $279 at Overstock.  Regular queen is 60 x 80

 

Replace 6 gal water heater with tankless unlimited hot water (Very optional)

-Truma Aqua Go  basic model is $1099.  Could always add it later, if running out of hot water is an issue.  It is said that running water heater on both propane and electric at the same heats up water fast. So probably will be fine with existing 6 gal heater, especially if you can take short showers.  Some dealers however will give you trade in value (up to $300) for turning in a new unused water heater.  So check with you dealer as it may be cheaper to do it at time of delivery before using the standard water heater.  Do not buy any other brand, they are half the price but are all terrible!!!

Add surge protection to RV

-Progressive industries EMS-PT30C Portable RV surge protector 30 AMP.  Comes with metal hook to be able to lock it onto the electric box so that it is not stolen.  $235.00.  This is better than just surge protection since it will also shut off current if it goes too low or is wired wrong.  Even better, get the hard wired version (HW30C same price) so no worries about getting stolen.  May need to have dealer install as it (around $200) involves cutting into electric lines.  Also has a low hum but to eliminate it people report using rubber spacers when attaching it to RV floor.




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OLD 2017.5 RPOD 180 + 2015 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk
NEW: 2018 Passport Elite 23RB + 2017 Ram 1500 Diesel


Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2017 at 6:48pm
Nice job putting all that together!

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Leo & Melissa Bachand
2017 Ford F150
2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk
Previously owned
2015 Rpod 179
2010 Rpod 171


Posted By: flagrv
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2017 at 8:03pm
WOW!  Thanks for that fantastic list!  As we are graduating from tenting to Rpod...ing, we sure appreciate all the help and advice.

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Peter and Ritamarie
2018 Rpod 180
Honda Pilot


Posted By: Richand Cindy
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2017 at 9:21am
You're welcome.  One change I would make.  Despite moving the sewer hose compartment further back on the RPOD and thus bigger it will NOT hold two ten foot pipes.  It misses by about 6 inches.  I could only fit one 10 foot piece in so I hope I never have to use 20'.  I would go with either a 10 footer or a 15 foot hose


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OLD 2017.5 RPOD 180 + 2015 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk
NEW: 2018 Passport Elite 23RB + 2017 Ram 1500 Diesel


Posted By: rda54
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2017 at 11:31am
Plastic pads for stabilizers (Do not use wood)
Why do you say not to use wood?

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Ronald & Lonna
2014 178
2016 Chevy 1500


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2017 at 11:44am
Originally posted by rda54

Plastic pads for stabilizers (Do not use wood)
Why do you say not to use wood?

1. weight
2. no moisture retention
3. less likely to pick up and carry pests from one location to another.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: rda54
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2017 at 11:46am
Ok good to know I made wood blocks for mine I will change them out for the plastics ones.
Thanks

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Ronald & Lonna
2014 178
2016 Chevy 1500


Posted By: Richand Cindy
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2017 at 1:48pm
Thanks for answering.  When I took the notes to get plastic I did not write down the reason and so I didn't remember and would not have been able to respond.  This forum is a real team effort!!!

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OLD 2017.5 RPOD 180 + 2015 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk
NEW: 2018 Passport Elite 23RB + 2017 Ram 1500 Diesel


Posted By: PilotPodder
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2017 at 11:59am
I'd also recommend the Eva-Dry EDV-1100 Petite Dehumidifier and Acurite 613 indoor humility monitor.

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Portage, MI — 2017 RPod 179 - sold / 2017 Toyota Tundra — https://johnmarucci.com/r-pod-video-list/ - My RPod YouTube Videos



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