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    Posted: 03 Jun 2015 at 3:06pm
Furnaces only need electric to run the blower, so usually you are ok.  Some newer picky models won't run unless the frequency is accurate and stable, so cheap screamers may not work then.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jun 2015 at 2:31pm
Thanks for the heads up on home hook-up. I know it won't power the higher 240v appliances but to be able to have some lights on, tv, keep the fridge running, the basic stuff, etc. I would only use it when the power goes out. 

I think some furnaces can be run on 3000 watts? I'm not sure but I thought when I did research on generators that furnaces don't take much to operate. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jun 2015 at 1:15pm
Glad to help.
A note on home backup use - usually the smaller generators (below 6000 watts) only supply 120 volts, not 120/240.  So to use one with a house usually an electrician must pull circuits out of your service panel and put them into a subpanel with a transfer switch, which will then run from the generator.  You won't be able to run an electric water heater, well pump, electric stove since they need 120/240 or just 240 and they need more amperage than a small generator can provide.  The electrician must also make sure no multi-wire branch circuits are moved to the subpanel (or if they must, both sides must be combined onto one breaker).
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The help on here is amazing. I really appreciate all the advice and think in finally understand it.  Thumbs up to everyonr
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jun 2015 at 10:56am
Again it depends on your camping conditions and needs.  If your solar panels will be in full sun a solar system will be enough for boondocking (although I recommend 200 watts).  If you are often in shade a dual-battery system may be enough to get you through a week, with conservation.  Or a small generator.
 
You will most likely need to pair 2 of the Honda 2000's to run an A/C.  Some have managed to do it with one, but not reliably.  Don't let the "inverter" in inverter-generator confuse you (it is unfortunate they decided to use that terminology for the newer gensets even though it is correct).  It is built-in to the generator and isn't something you can use separately.  You would need a separate inverter to run/charge smaller AC appliances directly from the battery.
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We got our 2015 setup with dual batteries but the first time we took it out for a couple day practice run on our property we realized a generator would be handy, especially to watch a little tv at night. The cost of solar to keep up with two batteries was really expensive. I chose the new Briggs and Stratton P3000 inverter generator. It was able to start the A/C and it was topping off the batteries. It was running at 106% but I shut the A/C down and next time I would wait until the batteries were charged. I was just curious if it would run the A/C.

The other benefit to a geni is that you can use it at home so some day I might have an electrician install a 30A outlet on the outside of my house so I can run just about everything.
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So if I get a honda 2000i and a 100 watt solar panel will that be enough. And then pair two Hondas if I want ac.  Does the honda having an inverter mean I don't have to have a separate one of those or do I need a separate inverter to say watch tv at night without the generator. I am starting to get the hang of this I think.  Big change from tent camping without ever having any electricity to rv
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I forgot to add if you will be running the big stuff like the A/C or microwave, you need something with more than 2000 watts.  Many here, including myself, have successfully used a genset rated at 2400 watts (surge) like the Yamaha EF2400is, but when altitude is a factor going with a 3000 watt genset is safer.
 
You also need to consider which type of generator you'll want - old-school contractor screamer that sucks down gas (but is cheap) or newer inverter-generator which is quiet and sips fuel (but isn't cheap).  If you plan on spending nights at truck stops or Wal-Marts, or using it at home during a power outage, you will want the quiet option.
 
Home backup is another topic, where I recommend a large contractor screamer and a smaller inverter-genset, based on my experience.
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Something to consider with solar is if just a corner of a solar panel is in the shade, the output drops off a cliff.  So they won't do much if you are under tree cover.  You can use large wires to extend them out 20-30 feet from the pod but then you need to babysit them so they don't walk away.

Most campgrounds have rules about when you can run a generator, except for dispersed camping areas in the west.  Don't plan on sleeping with A/C overnight, or letting Grandma sit inside in A/C all day.  When we were at Yellowstone last summer I think they allowed generators for 2 hours in the morning and 2 in the evening.  

If you will run one to charge a battery, do it for 30-60 minutes every other day - not every day!  Due to how lead acid batteries charge you'll get more charge for your buck (and more silence) that way.  If you will only be charging the battery and maybe your laptop and cell phones, you can get by with a 1000 watt genset but I recommend 2000 watts.  One reason is heat and altitude.  You lose 3.5% of your power for every 1000 feet above sea level, and 1% for every 10 F above 60 F.  So if you are in Yellowstone over 8000 feet and it is 80 degrees outside, you've already lost 30% of your engine power and therefore your electrical output.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2015 at 3:49pm
We have a Honda i2000 generator and a 80w solar panel with 2 - 12v deep cycle batteries. We stay at sites with and without electric. If we don't have electric we pretty much use the generator only for our coffee maker - we love our coffee. I can also use it to charge batteries and run power tools if needed. I haven't used the solar panel yet (it came with our used 2015 178). I'm sure it will get used during a 3 week Outer Banks trip this fall. Honda will make our coffee and solar can charge the batteries. 
As far as air conditioning- we ONLY stay at parks with electric if we think we will need the AC. We will go to the mountains in the summer without electric but never the beach - or south - without electric in the summer. 
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