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CharlieM
Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797 |
Topic: It's coming soon - hot water recirculating system. Posted: 01 Nov 2014 at 10:01am |
Fred, As they say "There's nothing new under the sun". I've been thinking about recirculating HW from the WH for some time, but only on paper so far. I don't mind the furnace noise in my Camplite, but the Camplite has more exposed plumbing than the Pods so I've been thinking about using hydronics to keep pipes from freezing. This approach, vs heat tapes, would be especially good for dry camping and while in motion on the road. All I need is to wrap small tubing along the exposed piping and sense outside temperature to activate it. I've collected a file on small pumps and valves for the future. But right now I'm re-looking the pure electrical solution. For short runs between battery recharges it might still be practical and a lot simpler. |
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Charlie
Northern Colorado OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD |
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techntrek
Admin Group - pHp Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9059 |
Posted: 31 Oct 2014 at 10:40pm |
Ha!
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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual
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fwunder
Senior Member Joined: 04 Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Online Status: Offline Posts: 1676 |
Posted: 31 Oct 2014 at 1:45pm |
Pretty funny...parallel universe!
fred
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2014 RPod 178 => MyMods and Buying Habits
2008 4Runner Limited 4.0-liter V6 Yes, those are wild ponies dining on grass while dumping tanks! |
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wildfire305
Groupie Joined: 22 Jul 2014 Location: Erlanger, KY Online Status: Offline Posts: 85 |
Posted: 29 Oct 2014 at 8:53pm |
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00E0FXR6K
I found it on Amazon. There was also one with brass ends for three times that. The specs looked good. |
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fwunder
Senior Member Joined: 04 Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Online Status: Offline Posts: 1676 |
Posted: 29 Oct 2014 at 8:10pm |
What brand? Sounds great. Thanks! fred
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2014 RPod 178 => MyMods and Buying Habits
2008 4Runner Limited 4.0-liter V6 Yes, those are wild ponies dining on grass while dumping tanks! |
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wildfire305
Groupie Joined: 22 Jul 2014 Location: Erlanger, KY Online Status: Offline Posts: 85 |
Posted: 29 Oct 2014 at 7:45pm |
12 volt solar hot water recirculating pump. 3 gpm @ 500ma draw.
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2005 Dodge Durango 4.7 V8
OLD Tow Vehicle 2004 Honda Odyssey 2015 RP179 "73b" OLD 2005 Viking Saga 2480ST popup |
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techntrek
Admin Group - pHp Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9059 |
Posted: 29 Oct 2014 at 7:45pm |
LOL, that testing is exactly the type of thing I would enjoy on a Saturday afternoon when I should be outside doing my leaves.
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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual
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fwunder
Senior Member Joined: 04 Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Online Status: Offline Posts: 1676 |
Posted: 29 Oct 2014 at 3:00pm |
Hogone,
The Mr. Heater portable buddy cranks some heat...quickly and quietly. We used a one pound bottle on this trip, but I do normally carry a one gallon refillable tank and hose that can be used with either my Weber Q or the Portable Buddy. Total burn time on low (which is hot) is about 5-6 hours per pound. Wife was a bit more skeptical and a bit uncomfortable with the heater than me. It has a small open flame pilot and glows bright red and is very hot directly in front and on top. It does have a built in oxygen sensor and auto shutoff if tilted more than 45 degrees. I don't think I would leave it running all night and you really do need to crack a window or two just in case. It's really great for sitting in front of under the dome or standing in front of after a shower! Doug, I tried to find my 45 year old Thermodynamics textbook to work out the energy equations...then laughed at the thought of me trying to understand that again! Ya know, we could probably find an old auto heater core, a small fan, a pump, a sink full of 140 degree water and do some testing in your kitchen! I won't tell my wife if you don't tell yours! Seriously though, given the amount of heat the furnace throws outside and reading that the furnace is, at best, 70% efficient *and* I still got 6 gallons of 140 degree water; I gotto believe the hot water heating system would be more efficient. But...I was also positive we would have flying cars and a robot maid named Rosie! fred
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2014 RPod 178 => MyMods and Buying Habits
2008 4Runner Limited 4.0-liter V6 Yes, those are wild ponies dining on grass while dumping tanks! |
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techntrek
Admin Group - pHp Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9059 |
Posted: 29 Oct 2014 at 1:59pm |
Dang, don't give me another project to consider! My to-do is already long enough.
But it would be an interesting project to fiddle around with. Then there would be testing to compare propane used via the furnace vs. the WH given the same outside conditions (temp and wind). Then improvements to make it more efficient, then....
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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual
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hogone
Senior Member Joined: 09 Apr 2013 Location: St. Louis Online Status: Offline Posts: 1043 |
Posted: 29 Oct 2014 at 1:26pm |
fwunder: so you liked the "mr. buddy"! did you use disposable containers or a small refill one. seriously thinking of making this purchase. hogone
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Jon & Pam
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