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Hello fellow Podders! It's nice to know there is a forum like this by which to correspond and learn some tips and tricks. My wife and I are purchased our Pod (177, Hood River Edition) at the end of summer and have used it twice. I'm an avid off-road motorcyclist and photographer and my wife is a working mom. We were excited to take this step as our 4 year old would most definitely love the travel experience. We pull the RPod with a Ford Escape and it labors pretty good over 55 so that's where I keep it on the highway. We live in the Pacific Northwest and plan to pull it all over Oregon and Washington to begin with. There are some issues, though, and in my opinion could be a real deal breaker when it comes to experiencing life on the road. I'll bullet point them in order of importance and I would love to hear your solutions. FYI...we will be dry camping at times and hooked up at times. Really depends on where we're headed.

1. The heater fan will not allow us to sleep. It's way too loud, especially when it cycle on and off...and it does this frequently. Why do they insist on putting the noisiest heater in such a small space? Is there a mod for this?

2. In our second outing, I carried my father's Honda generator and five gallons of gas to run a small, silent space heater. About 90-100 pounds of extra weight just to run a 20 dollar heater no larger than my toaster. Very impractical. We plan on using this a lot in the winter so a viable solution is needed if we're going to enjoy this. Again, is there a mod or way to swap out the heater fan motor to a silent one?

3. Had to foam top the mattress. It's very uncomfortable. I know much has been covered here about this.

4. Gas mileage went from 23 mpg in my Escape to under 10. That's at 55-60mph. Might have to reduce the speed even lower? Or get a new tow rig.

5. Covers. Not really an issue but more of a question about them. I have one and have not used it yet. Are covers good to use when storing the RPod outside?

Those are the issues. Aside from these issues, we did enjoy being out there and it was nice to have a cozy little cottage on wheels that would allow us to stop just about anywhere. We're really hoping to get the heater situation worked out so we can get some sleep in the winter time. We look forward to meeting some of you as well.

Cheers! 

Gary and Sarah 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2013 at 7:43pm

Welcome!  Looks like you have covered most of the usual suspects, I would add the noise of the A/C... maybe you haven't discovered that yet.  Embarrassed

Unfortunately while the major appliances are the smallest possible (except the fridge, which is a good thing), they are still too big for the small pods.  For the heater and A/C this means they are very loud.  The blower in the heater must blow hard enough to trigger the "sail switch", which is a safety switch that kills the burner if something goes wrong (including a low battery while boondocking).  The only way to make it quieter would be to slow it down or make the blower smaller, either of which wouldn't allow the sail switch to trigger - of it did just a slightly low battery would cause the heater to shut off.

There are two solutions.  With hookups, do what you've done and use a small electric heater.  Off-grid look at the Olympic Wave 3 catalytic heater, which can be connected to the pod's propane system inside using quick-disconnects so it can be moved outside on chilly nights.  An alternative is the Big Buddy catalytic heater.  Both heaters have safety shutoffs, don't use any battery power and are silent.

As for the A/C, I've investigated alternatives in this thread, with my most recent conclusion that the only reasonably priced solution is to mount a 5000 btu window unit on the tongue, then modify it to duct the air in/out of the pod and weather proof the control panel.  I haven't ventured to that yet.  Our solution for now has been to keep the blower set to "on" and "low" all the time so most of the time it doesn't wake us up when the compressor kicks on.  During the day I'll set the blower to "auto" so in-between compressor cycles we can still talk.

We added memory foam to the top of the factory mattress and are fine with it now.

Most people here see 10-12 mpg no matter what they drive, its the nature of the beast.  The pod looks aerodynamic, but it isn't.

Others here use covers all the time, some only during the winter.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2013 at 8:04pm
Doug,

Thank you so much for the reply and insight into what should be a peaceful, quiet interior! LOL!
The AC I would expect to be noisy and therefore not much to do about that. However, during the day should be fine and at night, cooler temps may prevail, allowing the opening of windows! 

As for the heater, wow, never heard of that sail switch and if one were to feel ambitious, could come up with a heating solution that would be both efficient and quite...and rich! I did find that if if left the heater fan on all night and opened windows, the constant drone of the fan was more tolerable than the cycling on and off of the unit itself. 

Thank you also for referencing the Olympic Wave. I'll look into that. I do have the mini buddy unit but I'm a bit afraid to bring non-electric heaters into the unit. I know as long as I keep vents/windows open and the fan blowing, I should be fine. It's a mental thing at this point. 

Will enjoy adding the forum as time passes. I look forward to further correspondence from the group!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2013 at 8:50pm
We had the same problem with our furnace the first time out in the late fall. The first time the furnace kicked in I thought the trailer was going to take off, even the floor was vibrating, but I was able to reduce the noise by about 50%. Now when the furnace comes on, I find it kind of soothing. Here is what I did:
I wrapped the furnace (left the air vents open) with sound deadening material; there is a strip of plywood under the furnace and I put a piece of SDM between the strip and the floor and another strip between the plywood strip and the furnace. Then, wherever the metal box of the furnace touches wood I put a strip of SDM in between. I put a SDM washer on the head of every screw that goes through the metal into the wood. The last thing I did (very important) I took out the screws that hold on the grill and instead of putting them into the metal I screwed them into the wood frame that is around the furnace.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2013 at 9:33pm
Congrats on your new purchase.  We are here in the Portland, OR area and have scheduled a second Rpod meet in Seaside Oregon in August.  Hope you both can come.  If you need further info let me know with an email.  Whatever Techntrek says, you can take it to the bank, which has been my experience.  Safe Travels.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2013 at 11:17pm
Marwayne,

Thank you for the tip! I will certainly look at insulating the unit and let you know how it turns out! Much appreciated!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2013 at 11:18pm
Oh, a fellow RPod'r from PDX! Awesome! Thank you for the head's up and the tip on Techntrek! I have a feeling we're going to really enjoy being a party of this community!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2013 at 8:36am
On further thinking, just about anybody who posts here has a lot of Pod experience.  You really can't go wrong with any of the suggestions.  Marwayne, in my opinion, is truly a mod afficionado.  He is obviously very capable in woodworking and all of the other disciplines.  I'm not sure the factory would recognize his Rpod.  All his mods are well thought out and well executed.  I only wish I were half as handy as he is.  If you replace the mattress at the get go, you will have done the most for a single mod to make your podding more enjoyable.  Since you are local, if you would like to see ours, just contact me and will show you what we have done.  I did show another local Podder our mods and they got some ideas to make theirs more to their life style.  We camp almost exclusively with full hookups as I must maintain contact with my office.  However with a wifi connection, we can stay out at least two weeks and have a fine time.  In any event, use your pod, keep a pad and pencil handy and write down what you need and what needs modifying.  My only other suggestion, which someone else has to take the credit for, is to purchase a 3" 3 ring notebook with a package of plastic sleeves.  Insert each of your instruction sheets, warranties, etc. into each one.  When you are on the road and have a problem you have all you need handy.  We keep it in one of the overhead cabinets, and find it very useful.  We also keep all of our pets health records with us,l just in case.  Safe Travels.
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