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lostagain 
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 Calendar Event: ELECTRIC ?Posted: 18 Jan 2023 at 6:32am |
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How many of you saw Country Joe and the Fish in 1967 in Golden Gate Park in San Francisco? It was a part of a free concert.
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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
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offgrid
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Posted: 18 Jan 2023 at 7:25am |
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Missed that. At 13 my folks didn't consider me to be old enough for the summer of love in SF. Because it was local the Airplane in Santa Cruz was ok tho. Shouldnt have been.
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offgrid
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Posted: 18 Jan 2023 at 8:13am |
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Back (semi) on topic. Never having looked at one of those Romex splices I was curious how they make electrical contact. Sure enough, as I suspected the one I looked at uses insulation displacement connections, like the connectors FR uses on rpod brake lines. We all know how well those work (not). The difference is that in a brake line it won't start a fire if it loses contact, although conceivably you could lose control of the trailer if one wheel brakes and the other doesn't. Inside a wall at 120Vac it could draw an arc.
So personally I wouldn't use one even for repairs where it would be code compliant. Call me old school but I'd just make my splice with wire nuts in the existing 1 gang box and put a blank cover plate on it. Not trying to restart a debate, that's just my opinion, Folks can do what they want (and their AHJs approve).
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jato
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Posted: 18 Jan 2023 at 8:49am |
+1 Can't beat the wire nut for splicing. However another great splice we used on the golf course were the Scotchlock, underground/underwater packs. Used those for 30+ years, never had 1 failure.
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'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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StephenH
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Posted: 18 Jan 2023 at 9:10am |
I had to tow ours home from South Carolina with only one side working. With a good sway control system in place, it is noticeable, but not extreme. I made sure that I left plenty of room for braking so I would not have to slam on the brakes though.
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StephenH
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lostagain
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Posted: 18 Jan 2023 at 10:54am |
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I also like the use of wire nuts and crimp on connectors but one must be careful to size them correctly to the wire you're connecting and tighten them carefully and fully. If the wrong size is used, or if it is not properly tightened, a wire can slip out and that can create arcing and fire and shock hazards. I've personally never used the WAGO style connectors, so I have in experience on how well they work. From the videos I've watched demonstrating their use, it appears that even an idiot like me could successfully use them.
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GlueGuy
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Posted: 18 Jan 2023 at 11:03am |
Did not see them there, but I did see them when they played Fort Ord in 1970 (I think it was 1970)... |
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offgrid
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Posted: 18 Jan 2023 at 4:31pm |
I think I might just cut the other brake line if I couldn't fix the open one while on the road. Probably better to have no trailer brakes than have one wheel grabbing.
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StephenH
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Posted: 18 Jan 2023 at 10:21pm |
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I probably should have cut the other one, but I thought some braking was better than none.
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StephenH
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offgrid
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Posted: 19 Jan 2023 at 3:14am |
Sure, any mechanical splice can come undone. Probably wire nuts are worse than those Romex spices. If I'm making a wire splice I really need to have work no matter what (like in my airplane) it will be soldered anand coverd with heat shrink. But that's not Code compliant. So in household wiring you need the splice in a box so it's strain relieved, the surrounding flammable materials are separated in case of arcing, and most importantly so theres accessibility to fix problems that occur. That is what the Code requires with the exception that the Romex splice device is allowed for repairs. I expect that's because there isn't another good option for that situation. If you drive a screw through some Romex in your wall, you typically won't have enough slack to be able to repair it in a single box, you'd need two boxes, 4 wirenuts, and a new length of romex. A real PITA with more connections that could open up in future. I haven't used Wagos either. Not sure that theyd be any better than wirenuts though and it looks like they're take up a low of valuable box real estate.
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