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    Posted: 14 Jun 2014 at 1:24pm
Update that I posted on the other thread I started on this, they have agreed to refund the amount they charged to "diagnose" the fridge problem.  I have an appointment set up for the 23rd at a local dealer that only does service.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jun 2014 at 8:25pm
I had already soften Stolzfus for you Doug when you made your deal.  I beat them over the head as this was the third unit buying from them.  Sales they are good in. Service well let's just say I have done my own and only went in when they had warranty work to do. Find the best pricing you can and then talk to them. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2014 at 10:17pm
Good to know. There are several dealers within 4 hours that show lower prices at the moment.

The unit at Stoltzfus that we like doesn't have the 17" Jensen LCD in it, so that factors in. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2014 at 9:08pm
Generally they can take 1/3 off of their sticker if pushed.  When I bought mine they were asking 18k sticker, and would only go to 14k after negotiations.  Then I brought out the printout with Couch's price and they dropped to 12k, within a few hundred of Couch.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2014 at 7:16pm
Agreed. There are lots of factors to consider. I'd prefer not to have to drive to Ohio...it's over 10 hours out there, and probably 12-15 coming back with no traffic. Stoltzfus is 90 minutes at the right time of day, and Bayshore is about the same. 

The next closest dealer is in either Easton, PA (no inventory) or Virginia. 

What's harder about this is there is no Edmunds for RVs. What constitutes a fair price? It's not like invoice v MSRP is readily available outside what the dealer tells you. 

Definitely appreciate the thoughts. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2014 at 6:50pm
If you can spare a weekend you can get out there and back for a lot less than $1000.  However, if you keep pinging dealers farther and farther from Baltimore eventually you'll find one fairly close that will give you a close deal.  Expect to pay several hundred more, but that is about what you'd pay in gas if you go yourself and is far less than $1000.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2014 at 6:30pm
Yeah, I was going to run a quote from Couch's and Bayshore past them and see what they say.

Couch's sent me a quote today that is about $4k cheaper, but I'd have to sell my current unit privately. I can't imagine them coming down that much, but then delivery from Ohio is $1000, and I don't gain the slight tax savings on the trade. 

We'll see...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2014 at 1:02pm
The one in Joppa is much closer for me, too.  I think that location had a different owner and didn't sell pods when we bought ours 5 years ago.  This time I'm going to try Charlie's RV on Liberty Rd, it is close to where I work.  They only do repair work now.
 
Stoltzfus may be ok in the sales dept, I had a good experience once I presented them with Couch's pricing.  But, since it has been so long things could be different.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2014 at 9:32am
My wife and I were there yesterday looking at the 179, and we're very interested.

A little dismayed to read this, but we won't have the trailer serviced there because it's easily a 3 hour round trip for us too. 

We met with Wayne in the sales department. He seemed to be a straight-up guy.  He quoted us the pricing that appears on their website, and gave us a preliminary number on our trade. I haven't negotiated anything yet as we've still got to make the decision to purchase the RPod. 

Next closest dealer is in Joppa, MD...


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I can no longer recommend this dealer.  Twice now I have given them specific written instructions for a job and they have completely ignored it.  This is a bigger deal for me since it is a 3-hour round trip and both times I've discovered the problem while I was hooking up the camper in their lot.

Last year I detailed elsewhere here how I had them add 3rd brake lights just below the light bar.  Even though I told them in an email how I wanted the wires run down the edge channel and connected to the existing left and right turn/brake lights, they wired up both lights to the brakes.  Even if I hadn't told them how I wanted it wired up, why they would even consider doing this is beyond me.  Their techs should know the brakes only get 5-6-7 volts, so just how would the lights work right when they aren't getting 12 volts?  So I left the pod in their lot and ultimately they sent someone to deliver the pod to me so I didn't waste another Saturday running up there.
 
Last summer our fridge stopped working on day 2 of a 3 1/2 week trip.  It would mostly work on AC, and only very rarely on DC or LPG.  I finally made an appointment 6 weeks ago to drop the pod off over Memorial weekend, which gave them up to a month to fix it.  After just a week they said it was ready, and said over the phone they had to replace a fuse and it cooled down just fine on LPG.  Great!
 
I arrived on Saturday, paid the bill and hooked up.  I verified on the work order that they got my instructions right - very intermittent cooling on DC and LPG - and I saw the solution was "replaced main fuse".  So I tracked down the tech to find out where this fuse was.  If it blows while I'm on our next 4 week trip I want to be able to fix it, dealing with a cooler was a big pain last year.
 
He came out and pointed to the fuse I installed as a battery disconnect.  "Yeah, had to replace that fuse, after that the fridge came on just fine."  My jaw hit the floor and I knew immediately my fridge was still broken.  Yes, that fuse was removed, by me, when I dropped off the trailer.  Everyone knows you can't leave the battery connected.  "Oh no, you should never disconnect the battery from the camper for any reason."  Really?!?  So he insisted the draw from LPG detector and fridge wasn't a problem.
 
So then he asked me how I was sure the fridge didn't work.  I told him I used a wireless thermometer, and I could watch the temperature slowly rise to ambient once I switched to LPG mode going down the road.  At one point it hit 85.  I told him I had to throw out a gallon of milk, twice, because it was warm.  "Oh no, you can't use one of those thermometers, you gotta stick a probe in your food or a glass of water to measure the fridge temp".  Really?!?  "Yeah, those camper fridges work differently than... "  I cut him off, yes I know all about ammonia absorption fridges, but that doesn't change how they get the food cold - no different than your fridge at home, it cools the AIR, which cools the food.  A wireless thermometer will tell me just fine if the fridge is cold or not.  He argued it was not.  This is their lead tech talking, and the service manager was standing next to him backing him up.
 
I gave up, I told them I would bring it home and do my own tests.  Guess what?  30 hours on LPG mode and it was nice and toasty inside, including the ice-cold beer I stuck in there just to humor the tech's horrible logic, now a very warm beer (didn't open it, just felt it).  Amazingly after an overnight on DC mode the thermometer is reading 33 degrees but I don't trust that to hold at all.  Now it is on AC mode for a test all day.
 
So now I need to fight with Stoltzfus to get my money back for what they did to "fix" my fridge.  I sure hope the grease job they did on the axle is ok...
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