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    Posted: 06 May 2016 at 11:39am
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 May 2016 at 5:51am
Thank you for making the right decision.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 May 2016 at 9:21pm
Just for the liability reasons, you made the right choice.  Once you add your stuff you can add hundreds of pounds more.  My rule of thumb is stuff + full water tank will approach an extra 1000 pounds, so a 171 fully loaded will be pushing the limits of the 3500 pound towing limit that you find on minivans.  Which is why we usually suggest a 5000 pound limit, minimum.

You could look for a 151, which is smaller than the 17x line and came in around 1900 pounds.  Few were made so it would be harder to find one, but they do occasionally pop up here.  If you packed carefully you would be at your limit - but legal.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 May 2016 at 8:37pm
That is probably the best decision for the present. If and when you are able to upgrade to a better tow vehicle, then you will already know about the R-Pod.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 May 2016 at 8:28pm
After speaking with multiple dealers & learning that each unit is weighed at the factory and labeled - and there is no way to guarantee the weight, even when special ordering - we've opted not to proceed with an R-Pod at this juncture. I would have been very upset if we ordered one sans A/C, M/W, etc and it still ended up weighing >2400#.
I can't understand how there is such great variability between the same unit floor plan with the same options, or how they get away with advertising some as 2137#... What happened to quality control?
Maybe someday.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 May 2016 at 7:11pm
Originally posted by ToolmanJohn

 I would say that even if someone towed unsafely or not, you can be sued regardless. Being faultless in an accident does not mean you can't be successfully sued for having done nothing wrong. Believe it.


But obviously doing something against the manufacturers recommendations gives those who sue the ammo they need to win.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 May 2016 at 6:34am
 I would say that even if someone towed unsafely or not, you can be sued regardless. Being faultless in an accident does not mean you can't be successfully sued for having done nothing wrong. Believe it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2016 at 9:23pm
Even if it can pull 4000 pounds, it definitely won't handle more than a few hundred pounds of tongue weight (my Suburban only has a 1000 pound limit).  

As was mentioned above, if you get into an accident your insurance will not cover you and you will be exposed to a potential lawsuit.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2016 at 5:00pm
Ditto what everyone else said.  I'm towing a 171 with a V6 Honda Ridgeline that is rated for 5,000 lb. and wish I had a bigger tow vehicle.  It's not the weight but the wind resistance that is the issue.

The dry weights of the pods listed do not include items such as the battery, A/C, propane tank, convection microwave and any water you might carry.  You always want to keep a few gallons in the black tank so that any residue doesn't dry out and harden.  Then you want to keep a few gallons in the fresh tank for using the toilet, washing hands while travelling, more if you plan to dry camp.  water weighs about 8 lb. per gallon.  You also didn't factor any cords, hoses, supplies, utensils, food, clothing, and other items you normally stock the pod with which can add 100-200 lbs. easily.  I haven't weight mine, but I would hazard to guess my fully loaded 171 (2300 lb. dry) is closer to 3,000 lb. once everything is factored in.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2016 at 10:22pm
Personally, I'd save all the money you are talking about for mods to your 12 year old Subaru and just get a new tow vehicle that can do the job - or not get a pod. 

Curious to see how the test rental goes.
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