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    Posted: 16 Jun 2015 at 4:55pm
Thank you for the response. The tongue weight I listed was incorrect--it should have been 270 lbs. I weighed it at the dealer. Without water and what you have on your tongue assuming a 178 with the water tank in the rear, your weight seems about what it should be. Adding a full tank of water will reduce the tongue weight by almost 100 lbs. (in a 178).
The reason I am asking these questions is that I already have a trailer (non Pod) and the weight certificate in the trailer says that the tongue is 270 but it is actually 340 and that is without propane. The certified weights are supposed to include the gas bottle with propane, no options, no battery and no fresh water. The particular trailer I have has the water heater and tank in the front and when I add just water I am well over the tongue weight I wish to carry. My goal is about 400 lbs of tongue weight. The certificate in my present trailer also states that it can be pulled with a vehicle with a Class II hitch (3500 lbs and 350 lb tongue weight). The tow vehicle I bought to use with this trailer is a Ford Edge and it has a Class II hitch on it. I trusted the manufacturers certification when buying my tow vehicle and no find out that it is incorrect. I believe the 49CFR requires certification of the trailer's weight, but tongue weight is not mentioned. Still the maker of my present trailer, has minimally made and error in advertising. This is why I am looking at the PODs and specifically the 178 as it will meet my goal of 400. lbs tongue weight and 3500 lbs. total. I presently use an Andersen hitch with the Ford Edge and while it levels the trailer, it leaves the nose of the tow vehicle slightly up. The factory hitch may be "torqueing" because of the load. These comments are made based on my present trailer having a tongue weight of 500 lbs., which is how it comes out when loaded for a trip, fresh water included.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jun 2015 at 4:48pm
Really good Info   Nice job,looks good   Thank You
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jun 2015 at 4:10pm
Forest River specs the Hitch weight of a 178 at 257lbs. I have not a clue if that includes a LPG tank and battery or even how accurate that number is. My hitch weighed about 500lbs with 2 full tanks, 2 batteries, power hitch, spare tire, misc gear stored under dinette and bed, empty fresh water and a full water heater tank and no bike carrier or bikes on the rear receiver. And I'll also add that I have not a clue how accurate my friends scale is - full disclosure. 
My Xterra hitch drops about ¾" when I hookup the trailer and I'm very satisfied how it pulls. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jun 2015 at 3:28pm
Two tongue weights listed in this thread are slightly over 400 and almost 500 pounds. My question are these tongue weights measure with or without water. The one at 400 is a 178 with the water and water heater water in the back. The 178 I am looking at has an empty tongue weight of 170 pounds and a dry trailer weight of 2632.   Adding water to the trailer (full tank and water heater) will reduce the tongue weight by about 100 lbs. So my question is where is the extra tongue weight coming from. The extra lpg gas and batteries probably add about 100 lbs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2015 at 1:26pm
Bobditch,
 Great mods.
Specially like your double tank setup.
Before you travel very far w/ those bikes on the rear, follow your rig w/ the bikes on.
I have observed much shacking.
There is discussion on this site about rack breaking from the shacking.
Therefor I went w/ the Arvika Rack on the front, about the tanks. ( very smooth ride & you can see them)
Just my 2 cents,

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2015 at 9:33pm
I should, but have never weighed a rig.  We'll be right behind you this weekend at Castaway's.  And our former pod will be at Assateague.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2015 at 7:08pm
Holy trunnion bar Doug! That's a great write up. And I thought I was obsessing on this!

I'm thinking this weekend will be good to test all this stuff. We'll be loaded with all the toys (and Henry, the cat) and be parked on a nice level spot @ Assateague. I've repacked everything and will weigh tongue for grins before we leave. I think there might be a Flying J along the way from Philly south on the Eastern Shore with scales to weigh everything. You done that?

The dual cam anti-sway is real tempting. Sway hasn't been an issue for me (yet), but those look really nice.

Thanks!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2015 at 3:42pm
See this link for an extensive tutorial on "dialing in" a WDH.  http://www.rv.net/FORUM/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/17730894.cfm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2015 at 3:29pm
Originally posted by fwunder

 
Any tidbits on "the right way" would be appreciated.
Thanks,
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This is as close as I can find to how I was taught to do it that I could find after watching a half dozen videos.. I like no more than 1/2" of "settle in the rear. Keeps the headlights happy..

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EDIT: This one is good too..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2015 at 3:51pm
Originally posted by furpod

By tweaking, do you mean redoing the set up? and if so, what is the procedure you are using. I have heard and read some pretty interesting ideas on "the right way"..

Thanks furpod. I definitely defer to those more knowledgeable on the subject of weight distribution.

As I said, I haven't had any noticeable/uncomfortable problems towing quite a few miles, but since I haven't driven other rigs I really wouldn't know. I did notice a significant pleasurable difference when I swapped my Prodigy Voyager for the P3 last year, so I thought I would try to understand my weight distribution better. Maybe I can make it better? Visually, the trailer and TV are level.

My plan is to start by weighing things: Tongue weight and everything we carry aft of the TV axle and before tongue (bicycles, bike rack, generator). As soon as I have opportunity, I will weigh pod and TV. No convenient scales around me. Perhaps next week during a planned trip with all the toys.

Interestingly, we recently did a couple thousand mile trip to Florida and back without bikes, bike rack, generator or a couple hundred pounds of gear we had crossing country last year. I honestly did not notice any difference in handling.

Any tidbits on "the right way" would be appreciated.

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