Help choosing WDH w/FSC |
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R-Pod'nFJ
Newbie Joined: 04 Apr 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 37 |
Topic: Help choosing WDH w/FSC Posted: 17 Apr 2015 at 9:20pm |
Thanks for the all the responses. Our Equil-I-Zer just got here yesterday and it go to here really fast considering I bought the cheapest shipping. Pod People, thanks for the advise on how you got your fasteners to come loose. As for installing my hitch, I might be able to barrow a torque wrench from work. I really want to make sure I have the big bolts tight enough. I have a smaller torque wrench for the smaller hardware. We are going to be pulling the pod for the first time in a few weeks so I have to start getting it ready and sterilizing the FW system.
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15 R-Pod 179 71 Honda CB750 cafe racer project 71 Honda CB350 75 Honda XL350 81 KZ550 Ltd. street tracker project Scott & Kerri |
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Seanl
Senior Member Joined: 19 Sep 2011 Location: Fredericton NB Online Status: Offline Posts: 633 |
Posted: 16 Apr 2015 at 9:29am |
I think I will give this a try. As soon as the snow melts around my pod. I have some flat bar around somewhere that I should be able to use as a shim. |
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Sean, 2011 Rpod RP-173,2009 Jeep Liberty Rocky Mountain Edition
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Pod People
Senior Member Joined: 22 Sep 2011 Location: Chapel Hill,NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 1067 |
Posted: 15 Apr 2015 at 10:49pm |
I need to clarify one mistake from my earlier post
I said I made it a very tight fit. After the bolts were torqued, there is no slop or movement between the top bolt and the L bracket because it is solid with no space. I should have said I made it a very tight fit. After the bolts were torqued, there is no slop or movement between the top bolt and the TOP OF THE TRAILER FRAME because it is solid with no space. sorry about that Vann |
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Pod People
Senior Member Joined: 22 Sep 2011 Location: Chapel Hill,NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 1067 |
Posted: 15 Apr 2015 at 10:36pm |
We have the Equalizer 4 point hitch and had the same problems with nuts and brackets getting loose. After many attempts, I have finally gotten them so the nuts stay tight and the L brackets don't move.
I use double nylock nuts with thread cement(get the kind that it is not permanent) and double lock washers on each of the 4 bolts that hold the L brackets in place. I had to get new longer hardened bolts to accommodate the extra hardware. I torqued them to mfg specs and they haven't come loose yet. The problem with the L brackets was that they kept getting pushed backward by the spring bars friction. I looked closely and measured carefully to discover that the problem happened because the R Pod frame height was about 1/16" shorter than the space between the upper and lower bolts. this was enough space for the L bracket to be pushed backward at an angle. After looking at many options, I used one half of an exterior door hinge as a shim between the top bolt and the trailer frame. I had to cut off the hinge pin barrels and grind a little off of the overall thickness in the center where the bolts was located. . I made it a very tight fit. After the bolts were torqued, there is no slop or movement between the top bolt and the L bracket because it is solid with no space. It hasn't moved since. I still check them frequently with my torque wrench. Vann |
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techntrek
Admin Group - pHp Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9059 |
Posted: 15 Apr 2015 at 8:19pm |
I used a pipe wrench on both of my WDH hitches, on the big bolts. I agree the E2 L brackets needs constant tightening, even then the flat part of the bracket tends to tilt one way or the other which doesn't give good contact for anti-sway friction. I considered just welding them too.
Another option to consider is one of the dual cam models, like the Reese Dual Cam, which is what I have now with my larger camper. It actually prevents sway from starting where E2 or Equalizer can only stop it after it starts (like a sway bar). If you want to go to the top of the line there is the Hensley Arrow which actually guarantees no sway. I think either are overkill for the pods, though.
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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual
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Seanl
Senior Member Joined: 19 Sep 2011 Location: Fredericton NB Online Status: Offline Posts: 633 |
Posted: 15 Apr 2015 at 10:15am |
I just ran them in with my impact wrench and I have not had any issue with them coming loose. The bolts on the brackets on the other hand I have to tighten up all the time. I considered welding them on but Then it would be difficult to take it off. I just make sure that during my pre trip setup I put a torque wrench on them and snug them up.
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Sean, 2011 Rpod RP-173,2009 Jeep Liberty Rocky Mountain Edition
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R-Pod'nFJ
Newbie Joined: 04 Apr 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 37 |
Posted: 15 Apr 2015 at 12:36am |
Yeah, for the slight price increase it sounds like it will be worth it for the 4 point sway control but your E2 still looks like a nice unit, and still less complicated than the Pro Series I was originally looking at. I have a 2" ball but I'm not sure what the shank size but I'll have to check it out, thanks for the heads up. I can get the thin walled socket but I won't have a torque wrench big enough to torque down the 3/4" bolts. I'll probably just get it set up and snugged up then take the actual hitch to a truck shop to have it torqued up. I can't imagine they would charge much if anything at all for that.
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14 Cement Gray FJ Cruiser
15 R-Pod 179 71 Honda CB750 cafe racer project 71 Honda CB350 75 Honda XL350 81 KZ550 Ltd. street tracker project Scott & Kerri |
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Seanl
Senior Member Joined: 19 Sep 2011 Location: Fredericton NB Online Status: Offline Posts: 633 |
Posted: 14 Apr 2015 at 9:49am |
I just realized that I put the link for the Equal-I-Zer hitch. I have the E2 hitch they are similar but the Equal-I-Zer is better because it has 4 points of sway control where the E2 only has two. Sorry about that. I wanted the Equal-I-Zer when I got mine but it was not in the budget. The only negative thing I can say about them is that at low speeds they are noisy. The sway control is metal on metal friction so it makes a grinding sound when you turn a low speeds. I just ignore it but my wife thinks there is something wrong all the time. Three things I would recommend. 1. Buy the ball from the same people you buy the hitch from. I found it hard to find a 2" ball with a 1 1/4" shank. I ended up getting a sleeve that allowed me to use a 1" shank. 2. You will need a thin walled socket to put the ball on with. a think walled socket will not fit. One other thing to note is I had to move the emergency brake cable to get the brackets on. This is the E2. This is not where I got mine from but I see that they have gone up in price. If I had to pay this much I would have bought the Eqal-I-Zer. Edited by Seanl - 14 Apr 2015 at 10:00am |
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Sean, 2011 Rpod RP-173,2009 Jeep Liberty Rocky Mountain Edition
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R-Pod'nFJ
Newbie Joined: 04 Apr 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 37 |
Posted: 13 Apr 2015 at 9:20pm |
Thanks for the info. I knew it wouldn't be holding all the weight of FW but I wasn't sure how the percentage of weight that is transferred would affect the TW and needed someone with Pod experience to give me their perspective. Thanks again. I think the Equal-I-Zer is going to work well for me. Thanks again.
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14 Cement Gray FJ Cruiser
15 R-Pod 179 71 Honda CB750 cafe racer project 71 Honda CB350 75 Honda XL350 81 KZ550 Ltd. street tracker project Scott & Kerri |
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furpod
Moderator Group - pHp Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Location: Central KY Online Status: Offline Posts: 6128 |
Posted: 13 Apr 2015 at 4:47pm |
Going to get messy if he pees on that tire at speed..
Remember, even though your FW tank is ahead of the axle, it's not anywhere near the coupler. If you fill it all the way it weighs 250lbs or so, but it only adds a fraction of that to the tongue weight. The Pods frame acts as a lever, and the axle a fulcrum. The closer the weight is to the fulcrum the lower the percentage of it's weight acts upon the "handle end" of the lever (the coupler). |
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