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hogone 
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Joined: 09 Apr 2013 Location: St. Louis Online Status: Offline Posts: 1060 |
 Topic: PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO?Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 7:40pm |
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this is going to be a long post, so feel free to ask questions?
left for home from my 5 day trip today ,alot of rain over 5 days, (prob 4 inches); left this day with this scenario, major freak!!!! before i left, filled my black up (there was water at grounds) as i knew i was gonna dump in 45 miles and thought i would get a good rinse!!!. black approx 25+ gallons, gray approx 25+ gallons; fresh probably 3- gal in holders. 1st, i dont use any sway or weight dist hitch hook-ups, pulling 3 years never encountered any abnormal sway. tires on all full to perfection on this day. cruising east on i70 (very windy) in light rain traveling around 60+ mph. no major issues. i saw them coming, two tractor trailers. first one came along side with minor turbulence. next one right behind, and the pod went flying to the right and PAM yelled and grabbed on!! i don't mean a little sway here, but it came back and my heart started back up. so was this just a fluke, did my full tanks have a play, was this just the perfect semi-storm with the already winds in place? am really just curious, as i have pulled in major winds before with little to no issues. i just want to say this was not a normal "sway" encounter! sorry for rambling....................hogone |
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Jon & Pam
2013 RP177 2010 F150 2017 HD Streetglide 2009 HD Lowrider CHEESEHEAD |
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Podster
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Joined: 16 Sep 2014 Location: San Antonio Online Status: Offline Posts: 1108 |
Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 7:58pm |
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Howdy Duty that will make you feel ALIVE!
 Yes Sir, that's 425 lbs of water weight, and it's sloshing and shifting from side to side. The first bow wave started the movement and then the second triggered the relocation and shifting of the weight. Good to hear that you recovered immediately, it could have been much worse.
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Cliff & Raelynn
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Kickstart
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Joined: 20 Sep 2010 Location: Ocean Shores, W Online Status: Offline Posts: 267 |
Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 9:26pm |
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Hogone, welcome to the club! At least your sway wasn't a $35,000 one like mine. Thank goodness for insurance. If the sway really gets out of hand, remember that the trailer brake manual actuator is your friend, and your tow rig's brakes are not. Ya want some more white knuckles? Tow the Columbia River Gorge most any day. Just finished that again last week. Dripping arm pits to be sure, even with a well set up tow rig/trailer combo.
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Podster
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Joined: 16 Sep 2014 Location: San Antonio Online Status: Offline Posts: 1108 |
Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 9:33pm |
Are you currently using a WDH and sway control? |
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Cliff & Raelynn
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Kickstart
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Joined: 20 Sep 2010 Location: Ocean Shores, W Online Status: Offline Posts: 267 |
Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 10:02pm |
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I am still using a WDH. I was using a WDH and sway when I had the wreck. Some conditions are such that no sway WDH will ensure your safety, but I won't tow with a short wheelbase or marginal tow rig. My wrecked F150 was a short bed--never again for me while towing a TT.
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hogone
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Joined: 09 Apr 2013 Location: St. Louis Online Status: Offline Posts: 1060 |
Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 10:07pm |
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as mentioned above, no wd or sway hook-ups.
kickstart, you mentioned the bc. was just reading about that the other day by tech. the prob here was there was zero warning, pod didnt start swaying, it just went like that, nothing gradual not sure really would call this sway, its actually was like the pod almost went airborn but im sure it didnt as this would be impossible. the first semi was just normal turbulence, then the second and POW! honestly, if i would of had a small tv, i think well who knows. this wasn't something warnable (except knowing semis can be nasty). its really hard to explain!! was it the full tanks as podster mentioned? hogone
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Jon & Pam
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Podster
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Joined: 16 Sep 2014 Location: San Antonio Online Status: Offline Posts: 1108 |
Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 10:19pm |
OK, well I figured you were, but wanted to make sure because when you said the white knuckle factor is still alive and well up through the CG, I thought about this new product that I read about today. It's a system that automatically detects sway and instantly calculates a solution engaging the left or right trailer break with no driver intervention. Check it out... http://www.direclink.com/swaycontrol.html It works along the same line as technology used in cars to detect yaw and control it. Dude, seriously...it sounds like you may be the perfect test proving ground candidate going down through the CG and all. Heck, I would love it if the company would send you one for testing. If they believe in their product and hear your back story and your current setup with white knuckles and all, and they believe in there product, they may just do it. If anyone else has any direct knowledge of this product, I sure would like to hear it. Good luck and be careful out there! |
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Cliff & Raelynn
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Podster
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Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 10:27pm |
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hogone, I think it was a combination of everything, high winds, slick roads, bow waves hitting, no sway control, topped off by, not full tanks, but tanks almost full with its contests shifting and sloshing back and forth. It was all just the perfect storm. On a clear dry day with no wind, you probably would have evaded incident. And maybe with empty tanks and sway control you could have overcome the high winds, bow waves, and slick road. But combining all of those together, I think it's the perfect storm.
I think the title of your post nails it! PERFECT "SWAY" SCENARIO?...Yes!
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Cliff & Raelynn
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Kickstart
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Joined: 20 Sep 2010 Location: Ocean Shores, W Online Status: Offline Posts: 267 |
Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 10:50pm |
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Podster, I didn't get any sway this time in the gorge, just buffeting. My knuckles and pits are probably just from my past experience of about buying the farm in this area. And hogone, when I wrecked the 20' Layton, I came over a rise into the gorge and was hit so hard by a side gust that the trailer also felt like it skipped to the side. So, I know how you felt. Incidently, I was running with a nearly full water tank which was located behind the axles (dual)--which I almost never did. This lightened up my tongue weight, sloshed around and added to the sway. I think I'd have been OK but for that
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Podster
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Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 11:06pm |
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Oh OK, that's understandable...you guys be careful out there!
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Cliff & Raelynn
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