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Tars Tarkas
Senior Member Joined: 14 Jan 2013 Location: Near Nashville Online Status: Offline Posts: 1446 |
Topic: Dead furnace Posted: 15 Feb 2014 at 1:28pm |
The only fuse I know about is the 7.5 amp fuse in the main fuse panel and it's fine. All the fuses there are fine. I have the cover off the furnace, and don't see another fuse. There is a black button thing that I think is hooked straight to the thermocouple. It's pushable but doesn't do anything for me. There is a circuit board at the furnace, mounted sideways, at right angles to the front of the furnace. I can see an off/on switch on there that is on, but without pulling the furnace, I don't see how to access the circuit board. That would mean disconnecting the LP copper pipe, which seems like a last resort to me. And the furnace definitely won't work with no LP, so other than something very obvious like a blown fuse, there's not a lot of point in my pulling the furnace out. If we know there is a fuse there it might be worth it. I'll see what the manual for the furnace says about that. The manual has not been much help so far though. TT |
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techntrek
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Posted: 15 Feb 2014 at 12:43pm |
Have you checked all of the fuses to make sure the one for the furnace isn't blown? I also just read there is likely a circuit breaker either under the front cover of the furnace or behind the furnace (don't know why it would be back there).
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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual
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Tars Tarkas
Senior Member Joined: 14 Jan 2013 Location: Near Nashville Online Status: Offline Posts: 1446 |
Posted: 15 Feb 2014 at 11:44am |
Well, the thermostat works for every thing but the furnace. I've tried shorting it every way that makes any sense at all. The furnace wire to the thermostat ground wire does make a barely audible muffled little click at the furnace, but still no heat or furnace fan.
Any other thoughts? Does it seem prudent to replace the thermostat still? TT |
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CharlieM
Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797 |
Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 11:06am |
I am a bit disadvantaged since I am out camping, but I believe Rh means Red Heat and is +12Volts.White is usually the heater. Green is the heater blower if it has a separate fan control, but POD heaters do not use this function. The heater itself controls the blower. Shorting the green to white may give a false indication of non operation. Normally I would suggest shorting the red to white, expecting to blower to begin its cycle, but then I would remember the FR motto: Let no two Pods be the same. You could check the red wire with a voltmeter to see if is +12V. If it is, try shorting to the white. If the red really measures 7.5V it is some kind of internal logic supply and much more research is required.
Replacing the Duo-Therm may be a challenge if you want to retain the two speed A/C fan function. Most house thermostats just have fan on/auto. |
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Charlie
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furpod
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Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 8:55am |
I think you will find that shorting the white and green wires is what you want to try. You said you had ruled out the fuse, so it almost has to be the stat or wireing..
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jj
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Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 12:16am |
jj
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Posted: 11 Feb 2014 at 11:49pm |
The following are the wire colors used in a 5 wire thermostat cable. if it is hooked up correctly by installer.
your wiring is as follows from your discription. +7.5 red wire = voltage to thermostate cool yellow = AC fur white wire = furnace hi fan blue wire = high fan speed fan brown wire = normal fan speed grnd green wire = common or ground |
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Tars Tarkas
Senior Member Joined: 14 Jan 2013 Location: Near Nashville Online Status: Offline Posts: 1446 |
Posted: 11 Feb 2014 at 11:04pm |
What is an Rh wire? I see 6 wires, left to right, red, yellow, white, blue, brown, green. Labeled, in the same order, +7.5, Cool, Fur, Hi Fan, Fan, Gnd. W, I suppose is White, Rh might be Red (but that seems odd). I don't know what +7.5 (the red wire) means either. TT |
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Outbound
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Posted: 11 Feb 2014 at 10:33pm |
Its quite easy - just short the Rh and W wires - the furnace fan should come on right away. Also, you don't have to replace your thermostat with the stock Dometic model - you can use a household model; the wiring and labelling are identical. Personally, I installed an old programmable thermostat in my R-Pod.
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Tars Tarkas
Senior Member Joined: 14 Jan 2013 Location: Near Nashville Online Status: Offline Posts: 1446 |
Posted: 11 Feb 2014 at 10:15pm |
Thanks for the thoughts... I haven't really fooled with it anymore yet, but I have googled around a bit about the Dometic thermostat. It seems they don't have a stellar reputation. But they aren't very expensive so I guess I'll get another one and give it a try. I'd like to figure out how to bypass the thermostat though to start the furnace just to ensure the problem isn't on that end. Maybe it will become apparent how to do that as I dig in.
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