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marwayne
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Topic: Back up lights Posted: 21 Sep 2013 at 9:34pm |
I don't get it, cars, trucks and even truck campers have back up lights, why not trailers. Is there some magic that the trailer knows were to go in the dark. I ran into that problem not to long ago. What a pain to get out of the truck every few feet to see if your still on track. No more next mod back up lights. The pod is wired for back up lights, at least there is a wire for the lights, it's yellow but caped.
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Keith-N-Dar
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Posted: 21 Sep 2013 at 9:48pm |
Good question. I think backup lights are a warning for other vehicles and people as well. It would make sense for trailers to have them.
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Keith-N-Dar
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Bill-GA
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Posted: 21 Sep 2013 at 10:21pm |
I've also thought about a "sticky" LED light up high over the hitch in the front. No wiring, LED battery would last a long time. Has anyone done this? Any product reccomendations? It sure would help on late arrivals in the dark... of which I've had a couple.
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Bill & Bev
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techntrek
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Posted: 21 Sep 2013 at 10:34pm |
One of the uses of the center pin on the Bargeman is to power backup lights, so if the pod already has a wire from front to back that's great.
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TerryM
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Posted: 22 Sep 2013 at 3:15am |
Do you have the spare tire mount on the back of the Pod? If you do, mount an off road light on the mount and wire it up as a back up light. Lots of light!
Terry
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David and Danette
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Posted: 22 Sep 2013 at 6:53am |
I will wait to see how marwayne does it then I will do it his way, then I will no it is done right. It is a mod that will help, I am surprised no one that I know of has done this mod yet. Looking forward to see how marwayne or others add the back up lights. David
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wallawallaron
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Posted: 22 Sep 2013 at 8:33am |
The center pin is used for back up. Under my pod there is a caped yellow wire that could be used for back up lights,run wire from caped yellow to lights mounted on rear of pod. Many lights to choose from.Hope this helps.
| | 7 Way RV Connector | Pictured below is the Pollock 7 way connector, which is the connector style in most common use on RV trailers and is becoming increasingly popular on horse and utility trailers. This connector is also manufactured by the Theodore Bargman Company and there are also some generics around. They are supposed to be interchangeable and the wiring color code is maintained among the various brands. As you can see in the illustration below the back side of the connector body is labeled at each terminal. The labels are listed below with the function assigned to that pin. On the tow vehicle side with the exception of 96-98 Ford and Dodge pickups and SUV's with factory installed trailer wiring, wire color alone should not be relied on, always test and match the function to the appropriate terminal. On the trailer side RV's for the most part are wired to match the connector colors. Any plug that has been changed or extended, along with horse and utility trailers should be tested when replacing for any reason to be sure the function matches the terminal. It should be noted below that the center terminal is labeled as an auxiliary circuit, most commonly used for backup lights not a ground terminal as many try to make it. Also after the connector diagrams find more information on wire colors used by GM, Ford, and Dodge.
| Wiring Code 7 way Car End# | Color | Gage | Circuit Function | connector interior | 1 | white | 10 | common ground | | 2 | blue | 12 | electric brake | 3 | green | 14 | tail/running lights | 4 | black | 10 | battery charge (+) | 5 | red | 14 | left turn/stop | 6 | brown | 14 | right turn/stop | 7 | yellow | 14 | auxiliary/back up | NOTE: #7 is the center terminal and currently is most commonly used for backup lights. | | Wiring Code 7 way Trailer End# | Color | Gage | Circuit Function | connector interior | 1 | white | 10 | common ground | | 2 | blue | 12 | electric brake | 3 | green | 14 | tail/running lights | 4 | black | 10 | battery charge (+) | 5 | red | 14 | left turn/stop | 6 | brown | 14 | right turn/stop | 7 | yellow | 14 | auxiliary/back up | NOTE: #7 is the center terminal and currently is most commonly used for backup lights. | | Click for 6 way connector wiring. | This chart should be used as a general guide only, you should always test before connecting your wiring. This chart also may not be accurate for vehicles with factory installed trailer harnesses. In past 2-3 years manufacturers have begun to match the wire colors to the code for the common 7 way RV connector. More on that after the chart. Caution if your vehicle has a diagnostic indicator that tells you when a lamp is burned out or not functioning, you may need special wiring adapters and testers. Not using these adapters may cause damage to the vehicle wiring or computer. | function | GM | Ford | Chrysler | left turn & brake lights | yellow | lt green w/orange stripe | dk green | right turn & brake lights | dk green | orange w/blue stripe | brown | tail lights | brown | brown | black or black w/yellow stripe | back up lights | lt green | black w/pink stripe | violet | ground - see note 1 | black | black or grey | black | In addition to the above some cars and trucks have a separate light for the brake light, most commonly identified by amber turn lenses in the rear. Chrysler and Jeep may have the separate light and use red lenses. If you have this type of wiring a converter is required. | brake light | lt blue or pink | red w/green stripe | white | Note 1: We recommend attaching the trailer harness ground directly to the frame or a solidly attached sheet metal part, using a screw or bolt. The single most common cause of trailer lighting problems is a poor ground on the tow vehicle or trailer. |
The common flat 4 wire connector used on boat, snowmobile, and light utility trailers most commonly uses the following code. Flat 4 wiring code | white | ground | yellow | left turn/brake light | green | right turn/brake light | brown | tail |
Factory installed wiring harnesses frequently match the flat 4 colors. Notes about GM OEM wiring harness. Most GM vehicles except '99 & 2000 Silverados match the following. GM trailer wiring code | white | ground | yellow | left/brake | green | right/brake | brown | tail | light green | backup | blue | trailer brakes | red * | 12 volt + | * Pickups only: since approximately 1996 the 12 volt + wire is orange. The orange and blue wires are in a separate bundle taped to the wire harness that runs down the frame on the drivers side. A white wire may also be found in that bundle, it is a brake light wire which is not normally used for trailer wiring. |
Brake control connector wiring harness color code for factory supplied harnessCheverolet/GMC | GM supplied brake control harness | Tekonsha brake control wires All electronic models | function | red | black | +12 volt | light blue | red | stoplight | black | white | ground | dark blue | blue | trailer brakes | brown | not used | | NOTE: The above applies only to the GM factory supplied harness, if using Tekonsha harness #3025, the harness colors match the brake control |
| Dodge tow vehicles with the Factory Tow Package Brake ConnectorDodge vehicles with this package are equipped with a 15 amp fused power line which is insufficient for 3 & 4 axle (6 or 8 brake) applications. For 3 & 4 axle (6 or 8 brake) applications a separate power wire should be installed directly from the battery positive to the brake control and should include an inline 30 amp auto reset circuit breaker.Brake control connector wiring harness color code for factory supplied harnessDodge/Chrysler | Dodge/Chrysler supplied brake control harness | Tekonsha brake control wires All electronic models | function | red w/black tracer | black | +12 volt | white w/tan tracer | red | stoplight | black | white | ground | blue | blue | trailer brakes | NOTE: The above applies only to the Dodge/Chrysler factory supplied harness, if using Tekonsha harness #3020, the harness colors match the brake control |
| Ford tow vehicles with the Factory Tow Package Brake ConnectorFord vehicles with this package are equipped with a 20 amp fused power line which is insufficient for 3 & 4 axle (6 or 8 brake) applications. For 3 & 4 axle (6 or 8 brake) applications a separate power wire should be installed directly from the battery positive to the brake control and should include an inline 30 amp auto reset circuit breaker.Brake control connector wiring harness color code for factory supplied harnessFord | Ford supplied brake control harness | Tekonsha brake control wires All electronic models | function | pink | black | +12 volt | red | red | stoplight | white | white | ground | dark blue | blue | trailer brakes | brown | not used | | NOTE: The above applies only to the Ford factory supplied harness, if using Tekonsha harness #3035, the harness colors match the brake control |
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furpod
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Posted: 22 Sep 2013 at 3:15pm |
I gave her a REAL good flashlight to use back there. Works for us.
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