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Sleepless
Senior Member Joined: 07 Jun 2013 Location: Titusville, FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 556 |
Topic: Honda EU2000 Posted: 17 Sep 2013 at 8:03pm |
You are right about Stabil. I belong to a few local area fishing clubs and the consensus is that Marine Stabil is somewhat better than the standard Stabil. But, as you said, it is not perfect. We have found that ethanol affects our older engines in yet another way. It will deteriorate rubber fuel lines over time. I still have my old 1750 watt Coleman PowerMate which I bought to power a small Coleman A/C unit I installed in a 1979 Toyota motor home. After changing to synthetic fuel lines, it once again ran like new, even after setting for a year or so with "Stabil" fuel. It is definitely better than not using anything. Bob |
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techntrek
Admin Group - pHp Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9059 |
Posted: 17 Sep 2013 at 7:49pm |
I've been using Stabil for a couple of years now, I store several 5 gallon cans year-round as an emergency supply. No issues rotating it once a year but I discovered something odd this summer. The Yamaha genset I bought this spring will start on the first pull. I rotate my gas supply in July so in June I put some of that gas in the Yamaha. Suddenly it took 8 pulls to get it going. Once running it ran fine. I didn't know why it changed until I put fresh gas in it. It went back to starting on the first pull. So in general Stabil may keep gas usable but it is not perfect. I'm considering rotating my supply every 6 months now.
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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual
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Sleepless
Senior Member Joined: 07 Jun 2013 Location: Titusville, FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 556 |
Posted: 17 Sep 2013 at 11:07am |
Good information, Doug. Here in Florida, we go one step further. When some people started having problems with ethanol, we all started using fuel stabilizer in the fuel for all of our equipment we did not use every day. I always added it to my outboard motor fuel since my boat has a 17 gallon tank which is enough to last me for a month or more. With the stabilizer, I have had no problems with the outboard, chain saw, or any other items not used on a frequent basis.
My only ethanol problem has been with my large generator used for backup during power outages. This season we have had no hurricanes, and I often forget to exercise it regularly. With a fuel stabilizer, no problems this season. I do shut off the gas and run the carburetor dry after exercising it. Bob |
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techntrek
Admin Group - pHp Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9059 |
Posted: 17 Sep 2013 at 10:49am |
The difference on the fuel cutoffs is the Yamaha has a manual switch which allows you to run the carb dry. The Honda has an electric cutoff which is only activated when you turn the genset off, so the carb doesn't run dry first. You can modify the unit to allow the fuel shutoff to be operated separately - but then you are getting into warranty issues if you have a problem.
If you'll be storing the genset for a while you need to run the carb dry to prevent varnish and water buildup in the carb. The ethanol in modern gasoline is notorious for both. That said, you should run any small engine at least once a month for 15 minutes to keep the seals lubed, some generator heads (the part that makes the electric) can have issues if left to sit too long, and to boil off any moisture in the crankcase. So it may make more sense no matter what the brand to just add a few ounces of gas, start it up and let it run until the tank is empty. That satisfies all of the above.
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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual
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Thinker
Senior Member Joined: 25 Feb 2013 Location: S. Mississippi Online Status: Offline Posts: 171 |
Posted: 17 Sep 2013 at 10:40am |
Yes, the 30A plug is connected and you can plug anything into it, you cannot however put more load on it than the unit can handle. These Hondas have two run modes normal (high RPM) and ECO RPM matches load automatically. The problem with starting an A/C is that it must stay in high RPM mode all the time so the compressor can cycle. When you parallel two units, then you can run both in ECO mode and save fuel. So it is cheaper to run two than one. The 12 Charger is just a simple wire with connectors. The issue on the companion is no 12v Outlet as is on the Main unit. If I were you, I would not get the companion first. |
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Tow Vehicle: 2013 Pathfinder 4WD R-POD Model 171
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bakes99
Newbie Joined: 18 Jul 2013 Location: Victoria, BC Online Status: Offline Posts: 27 |
Posted: 17 Sep 2013 at 10:18am |
Thanks. That's what I needed to know. Believe the 12v charger is ordered separately from the actual units. Can I still use the 30amp receptical if I don't have the 2nd unit even though I won't be getting 30amps. Can I still plug the RV in to that and receive the same amt of power as the standard recept.?
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RPOD 172 HRE & Ridgeline
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Thinker
Senior Member Joined: 25 Feb 2013 Location: S. Mississippi Online Status: Offline Posts: 171 |
Posted: 17 Sep 2013 at 9:55am |
I would get the HONDA not the Yamaha. Honda has a fuel pump and with a special cap you can connect an outboard motor fuel tank. Here is cap. See Special Cap Here I have both the units and the Companion does not have 12V battery charge output. The 30A socket on the Companion only gives 30A when running in parallel with the main unit. But you can run the companion stand-alone with just the 20A socket. |
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Tow Vehicle: 2013 Pathfinder 4WD R-POD Model 171
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bakes99
Newbie Joined: 18 Jul 2013 Location: Victoria, BC Online Status: Offline Posts: 27 |
Posted: 16 Sep 2013 at 11:21pm |
Fair enough and thanks for the heads up. Some of the most beautiful campgrounds in BC have no hook ups and allow generators to run at certain hours throughout day. If I'm there for a solid week, that means no battery.
I've heard that the Hondas are very quiet. Heard a generator at the last provincial park and it was very quiet, barely audible when walking past their site. I know many RVers have them, and all I hear is how quiet they are. Anyway just wanted a little info if anyone out there has one. Thanks
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RPOD 172 HRE & Ridgeline
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bakes99
Newbie Joined: 18 Jul 2013 Location: Victoria, BC Online Status: Offline Posts: 27 |
Posted: 16 Sep 2013 at 11:15pm |
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RPOD 172 HRE & Ridgeline
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Tars Tarkas
Senior Member Joined: 14 Jan 2013 Location: Near Nashville Online Status: Offline Posts: 1446 |
Posted: 16 Sep 2013 at 10:58pm |
The truth. |
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