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    Posted: 09 Aug 2013 at 11:46am
Yesterday we traded in our 2012 Jeep Liberty Arctic, because when we pulled our pod in extreme conditions (heat, wind) the transmission would overheat. Jeep does not make a Mopar transmission cooler for the Liberty, and installing an aftermarket would have voided our lifetime warranty.

We loved our Liberty; but when we purchased it, we owned an Aliner that was 1,000 pounds lighter than the Rpod. Add cargo, etc. and we were at just about max capacity (we use the Equalizer 4-point sway control and never felt unsafe about the actual tow, although SLOW was the word). We were in denial from last November (the first two times we overheated) until last month in Nevada with temps of 110 (two more overheats). When we took it into the dealer, they had to change the transmission fluid after only 30,000 because it was already dark. If we weren't overheating and if we could have added a transmission cooler, we would have the vehicle today, but you have to do what you have to do to be an Rpod owner.    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Aug 2013 at 9:21am
Originally posted by sammycamper

...I am actually more respectful of the counter opinions than this may appear. None-the-less, it is my firmly held position that the rPod was made to make RV camping possible for those of us with less than a Suburban in our garage and lifestyle.
 
Yes you can tow a pod with a minivan or smaller SUV, which I've said many times on the forum.  I did it for 2 years with a 2003 Sienna (and pulled our much heavier popup with it and a 1998 Venture).  The 178 isn't the model to do it with, though, if you are using a vehicle with a 3500 pound max rating (and a 300 pound max hitch weight).  I laid out all of the numbers in my first post which support that reasoning.  This is why we bought the 171 which is several hundred pounds lighter and has a lighter tongue weight.  It was still pushing the limits when you add in wind load - as I discovered on a white-knuckle day when I couldn't even maintain 50 with the accelerator to the floor on flat ground with a strong head wind.  I really wish I had a way to monitor my transmission temps at the time, I probably would have choked.
 
Go ahead and use a 3500 pound-rated TV, just use one of the lighter pod models.  Don't do it with a 178 (or several other heavier models) unless you will always pack light and never travel with water in any of the tanks.
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Originally posted by sammycamper

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I am actually more respectful of the counter opinions than this may appear. None-the-less, it is my firmly held position that the rPod was made to make RV camping possible for those of us with less than a Suburban in our garage and lifestyle.


Thanks, Sam.  Seems like many members frown upon 6 cylinder vehicles as being unsuitable for towing.  However, they rave about the merits of their "larger" TVs ability to tow.

I have mentioned several times that I tow with a 6 cylinder 276 hp AWD Santa Fe, and it is generally scoffed at as a tow vehicle here.  I bought this SUV specifically for towing use and pulled my 1900 pound boat almost daily to the Indian River to fish.  It does great on all of the boat ramps in the area, while many pickups have traction problems when they retrieve their boats on a wet ramp.

Many of the seemingly small TVs are much larger than they appear.  My Santa Fe weighs over 4000 pounds, has a wide track, and has a 106" wheelbase.  My last travel trailer weighed 2800 pounds and on our trip to the SouthWest, it performed flawlessly while climbing the 6 - 7% grades.  Overall, it averages just under 13 mpg.

I see no reason why a Honda Pilot or many similar vehicles would not perform similarly, if properly equipped.   I do speak with a little authority.  I began towing in 1955 (58 years ago) and have towed popups, boats and travel trailers up to 28', and have used tow vehicles ranging from a 1047 Chevy to a 34' bounder.  I chose one of the lightest pod models, but I can say that the Santa Fe tows it better than my Yukon towed the 28'
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OK, I will get off of my soap box. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Aug 2013 at 5:13am
Like so many things, the buyer has to be the one to ultimately decide what to tow with.  Can it be safely done with a minimal TV: sure.  But the smaller, lighter, shorter TV the more likely a problem will occur.  This can be moderated by transmission coolers, weight distribution hitches, and anti-sway controls.  Even with that stuff can happen.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Aug 2013 at 11:45pm
You can always play it safe and make sure that you and all your passengers wear your helmets, seatbelts, steel toed shoes, teeth guards, and bullet proof vests; and you can buy a semi to pull your rPod. Someday, you and all your passengers will die. You will all die even sooner if you rely on any of those safety measures to keep you from harm. In the mean time, I think you can enjoy your rPod by towing it sensibly with your Pilot.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Aug 2013 at 12:58pm
I just got back from a business trip in Holland...you should see some of the Dutch Caravans and their tow vehicles.  Some of these RVs are bigger than the Rpod and being towed by cars about the size of a Mazda3.  They're everywhere. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Aug 2013 at 10:35am
Thank you.  I'm on the hunt locally for one now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Aug 2013 at 9:24am
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Aug 2013 at 9:10am
This is coming from someone that has a TV with a tow rating of 6700 lbs, and having sold and towed RV's in the past.  No doubt that your TV can tow the Rpod, however my thought is that "towing safely" really hasn't been addressed.  Going down the straight highway, no hills, no other traffic, no 40' tractor trailers, etc. I would suggest that just about anything could pull the Rpod.  However, stopping, accelerating, handling, etc. are part of the equation in pulling a trailer safely.  Recently, one of the people who post on this board had a very serious accident while towing their pod.  I don't know what the entire circumstances were, but the driver has since upgraded to a much more substantial vehicle with a much larger towing capacity.  You are exposing your family as well as others, when you push the envelope of the TV's capacity.  Those are my thoughts.  Safe Travels.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Aug 2013 at 8:26am
None.  WDH has to be installed properly, bottom line.  Much less sway issues on interstate.  Got E2 hitch from Fastway.
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