R-pod Owners Forum Homepage

This site is free to use.
Donations benefit a non-profit Girls Softball organization

Forum Home Forum Home > R-pod Discussion Forums > Podmods, Maintenance, Tips and Tricks
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed: Battery dead:won't charge
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Calendar   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedBattery dead:won't charge

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1234>
Author
Message Reverse Sort Order
Anthony Valenzano View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie
Avatar

Joined: 09 Apr 2013
Location: Archbald Pa
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 44
Direct Link To This Post Topic: Battery dead:won't charge
    Posted: 26 Jun 2013 at 4:22pm
Originally posted by Outbound

Originally posted by Anthony Valenzano

It should be a deep discharge battery, which can handle about 150 100% discharges.

Over the past 25 years, I've owned boats with trolling motors, trailers, portable battery packs and several other deep-cycle battery-based toys.  My experience is that you can get 4.  After that, the battery won't last a night's camping.

That does happen a lot, but its more from the lack of a proper recharging rather then the discharging itself.  Problem is that you need a full 24-48 hours of current going in one direction only (into the battery) to prevent sulfation of the plates.   I've also found that slow charging is the only way to recover a really low battery, 2A, and 48 hours.  While actively camping that's a little difficult to do.  You almost need to pull the battery out and charge it elsewhere.  The batteries can't handle lots of charge current when they are low, as a matter of fact you should never charge a lead-acid with more than a couple of amps.   I don't think you have the choice with the on-board charger, and if you did have the choice, you'd be pulling current from the battery under load and making the sulfation worse.   

I deal with lots of battery chemistry - and it really doesn't get less confusing.  But it's handy to reference this place for good info:

Batteries are funny - how about this one - you have a li-ion in your phone/drill/ipad?  If you ever charge those while they are really cold they will die forever.  Fun.

Back to Top
Outbound View Drop Down
podders Helping podders - pHp
podders Helping podders - pHp
Avatar

Joined: 19 Nov 2009
Location: Oshawa, Ontario
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 767
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jun 2013 at 3:49pm
Originally posted by Anthony Valenzano

It should be a deep discharge battery, which can handle about 150 100% discharges.

Over the past 25 years, I've owned boats with trolling motors, trailers, portable battery packs and several other deep-cycle battery-based toys.  My experience is that you can get 4.  After that, the battery won't last a night's camping.
Craig :: 2009 RP171 towed by a 2017 F150
Back to Top
21grandma View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie
Avatar

Joined: 04 Jun 2013
Location: Dubuque, Iowa
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 83
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jun 2013 at 9:28am
DeadThought we had the problem solved. Not. Charged battery with charger to 75%. Plugged it into garage overnight. Battery dead again. Our son is coming over tonight to look at it. He will look at breakers and fused in r-pod. Do these often go bad?  Very difficult to reach. I have 2 "new"hips and husband has bad knees.  Once down, very difficult to get up.  Electrical panel very difficult to access.  Nothing will turn on in pod.
21grandma
Back to Top
techntrek View Drop Down
Admin Group - pHp
Admin Group - pHp
Avatar

Joined: 29 Jul 2009
Location: MD
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 9059
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jun 2013 at 9:41pm

If the lights inside the pod aren't coming on when it is plugged in the problem isn't with the battery, as others said you need to check the breakers in the pod, and to the plug the pod is plugged into.

Deep cycle batteries should never be 100% discharged (0% state-of-charge).  Usually they should be taken down to 50% state-of-charge, and only occasionally taken to 30%.  

Yes you can just leave the pod plugged in to keep the battery charged, the converter has a good 3-stage charger built-in which should not harm the battery.  You still should check the water levels every few months if you leave it plugged in.

Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual
Back to Top
Anthony Valenzano View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie
Avatar

Joined: 09 Apr 2013
Location: Archbald Pa
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 44
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jun 2013 at 9:41pm
Is your garage temperature controlled?  That helps with battery life a lot.  Interestingly, I have an Optima battery in a Subaru since 2002 and it still starts the car everyday.
Back to Top
Kickstart View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 20 Sep 2010
Location: Ocean Shores, W
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 267
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jun 2013 at 9:37pm
Originally posted by Anthony Valenzano

I think the power supply is suppose to float when the battery is charged.  So keeping it plugged in *should* be a good thing.
You're spot on, Anthony. I've kept our Pod plugged into the garage for over 3 years, and had no problem with the original battery. The Pod has to have a float feature , as I've never had any problem with the water level in the battery--probably only adding water about twice. I've had other trailers without the float feature that would boil the battery dry when left plugged in.
'10 RP 175-Replaced by 2014 Kodiak 173 QBSL
'12 Toyota Tundra
'05 Sportster (half a Harley)
Retired-We're on Beach Time!
Back to Top
Anthony Valenzano View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie
Avatar

Joined: 09 Apr 2013
Location: Archbald Pa
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 44
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jun 2013 at 9:31pm
I think the power supply is suppose to float when the battery is charged.  So keeping it plugged in *should* be a good thing.
Back to Top
21grandma View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie
Avatar

Joined: 04 Jun 2013
Location: Dubuque, Iowa
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 83
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jun 2013 at 9:10pm
What about keeping it plugged into the garage when not using it?  That should keep it charged. Correct?--but will it overcharge it?
21grandma
Back to Top
Anthony Valenzano View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie
Avatar

Joined: 09 Apr 2013
Location: Archbald Pa
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 44
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jun 2013 at 9:04pm
It should be a deep discharge battery, which can handle about 150 100% discharges. Car (starter) batteries can only handle about 12. The things that kill batteries are leaving them dead for a long time, charging them only part of the way, or overcharging them. Keeping the batteries on a float charger is the best way to make them last.
Back to Top
Kickstart View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 20 Sep 2010
Location: Ocean Shores, W
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 267
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jun 2013 at 8:56pm
Check the water level under the battery caps.
'10 RP 175-Replaced by 2014 Kodiak 173 QBSL
'12 Toyota Tundra
'05 Sportster (half a Harley)
Retired-We're on Beach Time!
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1234>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Bulletin Board Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 9.64
Copyright ©2001-2009 Web Wiz