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Anthony Valenzano
Groupie Joined: 09 Apr 2013 Location: Archbald Pa Online Status: Offline Posts: 44 |
Topic: Battery dead:won't charge Posted: 26 Jun 2013 at 4:22pm |
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That does happen a lot, but its more from the lack of a proper recharging rather then the discharging itself. Problem is that you need a full 24-48 hours of current going in one direction only (into the battery) to prevent sulfation of the plates. I've also found that slow charging is the only way to recover a really low battery, 2A, and 48 hours. While actively camping that's a little difficult to do. You almost need to pull the battery out and charge it elsewhere. The batteries can't handle lots of charge current when they are low, as a matter of fact you should never charge a lead-acid with more than a couple of amps. I don't think you have the choice with the on-board charger, and if you did have the choice, you'd be pulling current from the battery under load and making the sulfation worse. I deal with lots of battery chemistry - and it really doesn't get less confusing. But it's handy to reference this place for good info: Batteries are funny - how about this one - you have a li-ion in your phone/drill/ipad? If you ever charge those while they are really cold they will die forever. Fun. |
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Outbound
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 19 Nov 2009 Location: Oshawa, Ontario Online Status: Offline Posts: 767 |
Posted: 26 Jun 2013 at 3:49pm | |
Over the past 25 years, I've owned boats with trolling motors, trailers, portable battery packs and several other deep-cycle battery-based toys. My experience is that you can get 4. After that, the battery won't last a night's camping.
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Craig :: 2009 RP171 towed by a 2017 F150
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21grandma
Groupie Joined: 04 Jun 2013 Location: Dubuque, Iowa Online Status: Offline Posts: 83 |
Posted: 26 Jun 2013 at 9:28am | |
Thought we had the problem solved. Not. Charged battery with charger to 75%. Plugged it into garage overnight. Battery dead again. Our son is coming over tonight to look at it. He will look at breakers and fused in r-pod. Do these often go bad? Very difficult to reach. I have 2 "new"hips and husband has bad knees. Once down, very difficult to get up. Electrical panel very difficult to access. Nothing will turn on in pod.
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21grandma
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techntrek
Admin Group - pHp Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9059 |
Posted: 25 Jun 2013 at 9:41pm | |
If the lights inside the pod aren't coming on when it is plugged in the problem isn't with the battery, as others said you need to check the breakers in the pod, and to the plug the pod is plugged into. Deep cycle batteries should never be 100% discharged (0% state-of-charge). Usually they should be taken down to 50% state-of-charge, and only occasionally taken to 30%. Yes you can just leave the pod plugged in to keep the battery charged, the converter has a good 3-stage charger built-in which should not harm the battery. You still should check the water levels every few months if you leave it plugged in. |
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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual
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Anthony Valenzano
Groupie Joined: 09 Apr 2013 Location: Archbald Pa Online Status: Offline Posts: 44 |
Posted: 25 Jun 2013 at 9:41pm | |
Is your garage temperature controlled? That helps with battery life a lot. Interestingly, I have an Optima battery in a Subaru since 2002 and it still starts the car everyday.
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Kickstart
Senior Member Joined: 20 Sep 2010 Location: Ocean Shores, W Online Status: Offline Posts: 267 |
Posted: 25 Jun 2013 at 9:37pm | |
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'10 RP 175-Replaced by 2014 Kodiak 173 QBSL
'12 Toyota Tundra '05 Sportster (half a Harley) Retired-We're on Beach Time! |
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Anthony Valenzano
Groupie Joined: 09 Apr 2013 Location: Archbald Pa Online Status: Offline Posts: 44 |
Posted: 25 Jun 2013 at 9:31pm | |
I think the power supply is suppose to float when the battery is charged. So keeping it plugged in *should* be a good thing.
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21grandma
Groupie Joined: 04 Jun 2013 Location: Dubuque, Iowa Online Status: Offline Posts: 83 |
Posted: 25 Jun 2013 at 9:10pm | |
What about keeping it plugged into the garage when not using it? That should keep it charged. Correct?--but will it overcharge it?
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21grandma
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Anthony Valenzano
Groupie Joined: 09 Apr 2013 Location: Archbald Pa Online Status: Offline Posts: 44 |
Posted: 25 Jun 2013 at 9:04pm | |
It should be a deep discharge battery, which can handle about 150 100% discharges. Car (starter) batteries can only handle about 12. The things that kill batteries are leaving them dead for a long time, charging them only part of the way, or overcharging them. Keeping the batteries on a float charger is the best way to make them last.
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Kickstart
Senior Member Joined: 20 Sep 2010 Location: Ocean Shores, W Online Status: Offline Posts: 267 |
Posted: 25 Jun 2013 at 8:56pm | |
Check the water level under the battery caps.
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'10 RP 175-Replaced by 2014 Kodiak 173 QBSL
'12 Toyota Tundra '05 Sportster (half a Harley) Retired-We're on Beach Time! |
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