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Seanl
Senior Member Joined: 19 Sep 2011 Location: Fredericton NB Online Status: Offline Posts: 633 |
Topic: Electrical Question in Campgrounds Posted: 18 Jun 2013 at 7:50am |
I have always used the 30 amp plug at the campgrounds and I have never had any problems. At home I don't have a 30 amp so I use a 15 amp adaptor. this is safe because if I overload the circuit I just trip the breaker in the house. This has only happened once.
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Sean, 2011 Rpod RP-173,2009 Jeep Liberty Rocky Mountain Edition
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hogone
Senior Member Joined: 09 Apr 2013 Location: St. Louis Online Status: Offline Posts: 1042 |
Posted: 18 Jun 2013 at 9:07am |
So are you saying that if a campsite has 50a service, it will also/always have 30a service in the same box? I guess I thought and was under the impression that there are campsites with just a 50a hookup(no 30a), and that's why one may need the adaptor. I think I'm confused now. hogone |
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Jon & Pam
2013 RP177 2010 F150 2017 HD Streetglide 2009 HD Lowrider CHEESEHEAD |
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kymooses
Senior Member Joined: 01 Aug 2010 Location: Louisville, Ky Online Status: Offline Posts: 1807 |
Posted: 18 Jun 2013 at 9:25am |
I've seen campgrounds with any and all combos of service at their poles.
90% of the time there will be 50a and 30a connections both from my experience. 75% of the time there will also be a 15a 110 connection also at the pole. I've been to campgrounds where there is only 30a or a 50a at a pole. But those are sites that are usually sized for the type of camper that would use that connection. A large pull through site might sometimes only have the 50a connection, whereas a smaller campsite, something for Pods or Pop-ups and other sized campers might just have the 30a because a large rig could never park there. What I've had happen is sometimes there may only be a 50a site left at a campground. At times like that I'm glad to have my adapter and able to take the only remaining site. Also there have been times where some people describe that the 30a connection is just overused and loose at times. I like having my adapters at the ready. My 50a -> 30a, a 30a -> 15a, and an extra 25ft of RV extension cabling for when a pole is for some crazy reason miles away from your campsite. Just like having extra water hose. It's just a nice thing to be prepped for.
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Seanl
Senior Member Joined: 19 Sep 2011 Location: Fredericton NB Online Status: Offline Posts: 633 |
Posted: 18 Jun 2013 at 9:31am |
Some campgrounds have 30 amp and 50 amp sites I don't think I have ever seen a campground that only had 50 amp sites. The 50 amp sites are usually big sites as most 50 amp rigs are either Class A or 5th wheal rigs.
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Sean, 2011 Rpod RP-173,2009 Jeep Liberty Rocky Mountain Edition
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CharlieM
Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797 |
Posted: 18 Jun 2013 at 10:20am |
With all due respect to Tekntrek and Seanl, and I have a lot of respect for these gents, the risk of using the 50A connection with a 30A cord/trailer is really minimal. The trailer circuit breaker will protect almost all of the trailer wiring and all wiring downstream of the main breaker. That only leaves the actual external cord laying on the ground. The chance of a fault in this cord or its connectors that would be caught with a 30A breaker, but not caught with the 50A breaker is really minimal. You can't protect against everything. That said, if you can find an adapter with a built in 30A breaker, go for it. I didn't know they existed.
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Charlie
Northern Colorado OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD |
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techntrek
Admin Group - pHp Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9059 |
Posted: 18 Jun 2013 at 2:43pm |
It is a minimal risk, yes. Not just from damage to the cord but also overload. I've had enough stuff on in the pod that the internal breakers didn't trip but the 30 amp breaker outside did. With a 50 amp breaker outside I could have caught the big cord on fire.
Just saying that in reply to the question "100% safe?", the answer is no. I do have a dogbone, and one without the extra breaker since I didn't fully understand the problem when I bought it. Would I still use it if the pole only had a 50 amp outlet? Yes. But knowledge is power.
No pun intended.
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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual
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CharlieM
Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797 |
Posted: 18 Jun 2013 at 3:12pm |
Thanks Doug. I needed that. |
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Charlie
Northern Colorado OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD |
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hogone
Senior Member Joined: 09 Apr 2013 Location: St. Louis Online Status: Offline Posts: 1042 |
Posted: 18 Jun 2013 at 3:23pm |
me too!! thanks for all the info |
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Jon & Pam
2013 RP177 2010 F150 2017 HD Streetglide 2009 HD Lowrider CHEESEHEAD |
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