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P&M
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Topic: Will fridge run on propane with no electricity? Posted: 24 May 2013 at 9:10am |
Will the fridge, once it is fired up on propane, continue to run on propane if all electrical is then disconnected? IE: I want to pre-cool it before heading out, so I connect the battery so I can get the ignitor to work and get the fridge running on propane, and then disconnect the battery. When I tried this of course all the lights went out on the fridge once the electrical was disco'd, so I am not sure if it is still "running" on the propane.
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CharlieM
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Posted: 24 May 2013 at 9:21am |
My guess is no. The control circuitry probably controls an electric valve to turn the propane on and off. Even if the valve operated from a thermocouple like a home gas water heater, the flame would not re-ignite after the fridge reached temperature and shut down the first time. No pilot light on these units.
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Posted: 24 May 2013 at 9:42am |
As CharlieM said, no; battery power is needed to run the fridge on propane. The fridge electronics require power as does the DSI.
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P&M
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Posted: 24 May 2013 at 9:55am |
Thanks ... that's what I thought and just needed it confirmed. I reconnected the battery to keep it powered up, and just hope that the fridge electronics won't drain it too much in the 5 hours it is sitting this way.
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CharlieM
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Posted: 24 May 2013 at 10:01am |
You should be fine for many hours running on propane and the battery should recharge while you're driving. Though there is some controversy, I prefer to run the fridge on gas while traveling to make sure the battery is fully recharged. As I recall the fridge draws about 10 amps when running fully on DC and this can limit the charge to the trailer battery even when hooked to the TV.
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Posted: 24 May 2013 at 12:11pm |
Originally posted by CharlieM
You should be fine for many hours running on propane and the battery should recharge while you're driving. Though there is some controversy, I prefer to run the fridge on gas while traveling to make sure the battery is fully recharged. As I recall the fridge draws about 10 amps when running fully on DC and this can limit the charge to the trailer battery even when hooked to the TV.
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I'm not slamming you but I hope you never have an accident that crashes your camper with that gas turned on. Big fire. Terry
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Posted: 24 May 2013 at 1:53pm |
Originally posted by TerryM
Originally posted by CharlieM
You should be fine for many hours running on propane and the battery should recharge while you're driving. Though there is some controversy, I prefer to run the fridge on gas while traveling to make sure the battery is fully recharged. As I recall the fridge draws about 10 amps when running fully on DC and this can limit the charge to the trailer battery even when hooked to the TV.
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I'm not slamming you but I hope you never have an accident that crashes your camper with that gas turned on. Big fire.
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Hate to say it.. but I believe this to be MUCH over hyped. Almost EVERY RV out there has only a 2 way fridge.. and they ALL go down the road on gas. The propane bottles have safeties built into them in case of line failure etc. If you have a crash so bad the propane lines are broken open.. I think a fire is low on the list of damage anyway. I mean think about it.. BILLIONS of miles driven every year by RV's of all types.. very few spontaneous combustion events. BUT to the OP's question.. Battery will run the fridge brain for a long time... Days and days. It's one of the lower draws on the 12v system. Heater motor, fantastic fan, water pump, lights. Thats where your amps go.. You know if all you are running is the fridge.. can you just run a regular extension cord out to the trailer? will be fine.
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Posted: 24 May 2013 at 3:05pm |
I agree with Furpod. However, there are laws against running with open propane. I know that some tunnels prohibit it. This means that if in an accident you will likely be cited with contributory negligence even if not at fault causing the accident === if there is a fire.
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Posted: 24 May 2013 at 3:18pm |
It is only illegal to run wth propane on in a few specific tunnels, such as the ones in the Baltimore area. Other than that it isn't illegal, or unsafe.
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Posted: 24 May 2013 at 5:50pm |
OK. To try and put some practical science on this, I ran an experiment on my gas grill propane tank:
The full tank with nothing connected did not discharge any gas with the valve fully open.
The tank with only the grill regulator connected, but no grill connected, discharged gas at a very low rate with the valve fully open. This is only enough to light and run the appliance.
So I conclude: The tank safety valve will limit the flow for a completely open line such as a disconnected or broken line.
Now, if you leave the cook top on and the camper closed up you've got a problem.
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