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    Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 12:57am
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My slide would not go out after arriving at my destination.  The problem was a wire had bounced off in transit.  I photo'ed it with my phone and after staring at the pic, finally realized the red wire was off.

It's always the red wire!  Never cut the green wire! 
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First, thanks Stephen H. for your great visuals of the controller box & always trusty tech help. We had our slider go out 18 months ago, and I’ll tell you our experience: first thing I did is use my smartphone to video the specific error blink-pattern that the controller flashed upon the failure of our slider to push out. I also set the phone on slo-mo to record the pattern that way since the error blink pattern flashes such a quick pattern. That info went to our trusted RV repair shop. The result was that one of the little upper (horizontally-mounted) slider motors had corroded with moisture over time - it was basically barely turning the gear in the L worm track. The other side motor was just about worn out and weak but not corroded. The dealer ordered them in and did the somewhat labor-intensive job of replacing both of the quite-buried drive motors. Unfortunately it was close to $1k for the whole operation but comforting we can go on a long trek with virtually new slider drive motors. Since we live in Western NC mountains there are heavy rain downpour days during a storage summer, and we think eventually moisture intrusion and rust got in behind the rubber gasket and deteriorated the cylindrical slider drive motors. To protect our investment we upgraded our off-season Rpod storage to a slot with an aluminum roofed shelter. We can now skip “stressing out” for a long time about any slider functional issues on a long camping excursion. And, should we ever decide to sell & upgrade, (no current plans) the documentation of new slider drive motors would be a big plus in selling the unit. (‘17 Hood River 179). Hope this helps & sorry about facing this “possibly” 1k maintenance repair. Hope your actual repair is far less!
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The other thing you could try is to press the slide all the way in or out, depending on where it has stopped and if it's close to one end of the other of it's travel. It could be the limit switches are now misaligned because of the sag, which might be keeping it from travelling all the way in or out. By pressing on it you might get one of the limit switches to reengage.
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Yes I disconnected the battery twice and left it off for a while, a minute or less, wondering if I should have left it off longer I will do that when the RV is back on Sunday.  Have motor harnesses coming Wednesday and last resort is to cut into the ottoman.  Really somebody was not using their brain designing this.  Slide has already ripped the fabric on the ottoman too so starting to sag, waiting on the outriggers, mine actually has 4 connectors under the floor but they are like 2 inches long, no real support.  Thanks for the advice I will post again after all is done.  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote offgrid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 7:38am
Dumb question but just in case, did you try disconnecting power to the slide to reset it? Worked for me once or twice when it seemed to be locked up.
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Thanks yes I used a fiber scope like for car engines and put thru the hole in the back of the ottoman on both sides and looks like the controller is there and it is upside down so the button and codes and LEDs are facing the floor of the RV.  Again who built this.

Was going to patch into the wires for the motors but the wires are so thin I was afraid the tap might damage them and then I have other issues so I order to set of 5' pigtails today so I can power the two motors at the same time manually via connecting the pigtails and then connecting other end to a battery.  RV is leaving tomorrow and coming back on Sunday, wires will be here next week so either that works or I am going to cut thru the side of the ottoman and will then make a hatch there, yes realized today that can not come thru the top since that is the floor of the slide. 

Bought the RV since I have had other RVs from this manufacturer and did not have any issues but R Pods seem to have lots of issues, have addressed most but dealing with the sagging floor issues soon.  Ordered the outriggers from factory and for the kitchen area going to put up two supports and just use a pressure threaded wood there to support things.  I also have metal around and might be able to make a metal support, tried to buy one of the support which the tanks hang off of and factory would not sell it to me.  Thanks for the replies and again yes with the optical scope I see the wires going into the controller but all I see is the back side of the controller.  Hope this helps other people, if your controller is in the ottoman move it or make access to it since the situation I am in is very stupid and frustrating.

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I found this a good resource and has some good maintenance tips which may be helpful to you.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxEYSstvICI  Hope this helps you resolve your problem.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote StephenH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jul 2022 at 4:02pm
Okay, this falls under the "let no two RPods be built the same" rule. 

Is it mounted against the wall below the slide-out? When you say you "scoped" it, do you have a fiber optic scope that you used? If so, could you not see the codes using that?

I recommend NOT cutting through the seat area. That is the floor of the slide-out and will make a pretty big hole to weatherproof if you cut through that. The ottoman is basically fabric on the sides. It would be easier to reupholster them.

I went out and looked at mine. Here are the fault codes:

Green LED
1 blink - Motor 1
2 blinks - Motor 2

Red LED
Blinks Fault
2 Battery Dropout
3 Low Battery
4 High Battery
5 Excessive Motor Current
6 Motor Short Circuit
8 Wire Short Between Controller and Motor
9 Hall PWR Short to GND

How to manually override

1. Press button 6 times and hold on the 7th press until the lights start to flash
2. Use the normal slide control switch located inside coach to retract room

In your case, you are trying to extend, not retract. The button is in the rectangular cut-out on the front with the LEDs.
Here is a picture of mine.


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Other option is to cut thru the seat area and then into the top hatch and go in from the top but again it will not be pretty and will need to be fixed later with some sort of hatch.  All pain in the behind.
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