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    Posted: 21 Jun 2022 at 4:23pm
Hello fellow Podder’s!



I am not much for posting but thought I would do a short report on a recent trip through the Yukon up to Alaska and how the 190 survived the trip. 

The trip up was pretty straightforward up the Alcan Highway but the way home was via Dawson City and the Cassiar Highway after stopping in Whittier and Valdez.



Scenery – Indescribable! I have worked a bunch in Alaska so have seen a lot of the sites there, but the scenery in Northern BC and the Yukon is some of the best I have seen, almost as good as Patagonia.



Wildlife – over 30 bears both Grizzly and Black, hundreds of Bison, Caribou, Dall Sheep, Foxes, Snowshoe Hares, and one Lynx!




Roads – The road reports are always subjective due to people’s experiences and what vehicle they are driving.  The lower part of BC is pretty good, similar to the US.  The upper part of BC through the Yukon and into Tok, AK got progressively worse starting with the standard perma frost roller coaster heaves, moving on to cracked asphalt, on to huge potholes and drop off’s.  There were stretches of road that were gravel or pure dirt/mud and a lot of road construction with long wait times for pilot cars to guide you through.  The Canadian border to Tok, AK was the worse of the whole trip where I didn’t go any faster than 40mph for stretches due to the breakup and undulations.  This stretch did a number on the 190 loosening up everything (see R POD report below), but then we did a stretch of over 70 miles to a small village of Manley Hot Springs that was all gravel washboard that shook the poor 190 to bits.


R POD – Despite the following report it did as well as it could under the conditions.  First of all I was glad I did the Offgrid axle support.  After the first incident of lost camber, a new axle, and adding the support, I have really watched the cargo weight and only ran with a 1/3 full freshwater tank and minimal supplies.  Despite the potholes and major slams encountered, the axle camber held great and the wheels are vertical.  But…

EVERYTHING else rattled and fell apart including:

  • the floor is sagging under the slide…I will have to do the extension brackets
  • sink P-traps unscrewed themselves
  • the whole lower vacuum cabinet module separated from the upper cabinet
  • water pump filter cap came loose creating an air leak in the line
  • the sewer pipe bracket snapped and the pipe drug on the highway
  • all the AC bolts backed themselves out and the unit was just sitting there in the housing
  • the heater has internal parts rattling (still needs to be inspected)
  • step screws fell out


Like I said, despite all this the 190 did well.  I know these POD’s are built light weight and cheaply, probably not meant for these conditions despite the Hood River being sold with “offroad” ground clearance and tires.  


Being a DYI’er and a fix it guy I can easily make all the repairs with materials substantially stronger and the 190 should be able to handle almost anything after this run!


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Yikes, a whole lot of shakin' going on. Glad you have a positive attitude. Probably most of the issues with fixtures and appliances would have happened regardless of what trailer you have as all the mfrs pretty much use the same components. The floor and cabinet problems I'd agree should probably be attributed to cheap construction practice.

As for the "Hood River" version being more robust, sorry west coast owners but I've seen no evidence at all of that. As far as I can tell it's been strictly a wheel and ground clearance difference, sometimes. The rest is just marketing IMHO.
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Yep, agree on the marketing comment!

So many sites to see and explore, things are going to go wrong...might as well have a positive attitude or stay home!

Here is your axle support in action after over 5600 miles...

Before and after:




Held up great besides my paint job getting sandblasted.  Miles of gravel blasted off my zip ties holding the brake wiring too.

Poser pic of the 190 in Whittier:


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Post Options Post Options   Quote offgrid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jun 2022 at 11:42am
Mine got surface rust too, used to live near the beach on the OBX. Not an issue. If you want you can spray everything under there with Fluid Film. Seems to be good stuff, lanolin based so it won't hurt your clothing.
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Super cool trip!

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Can you please explain the axle support.
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thanks for this Alaska report. helpful and interesting.
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It is well documented here on the forum.

The axle is only rated for 3500 lbs with dry weight of 3200 lbs leaving about a 300 lbs cargo capacity.  Not much when you consider water hose, electrical cords, wheel chocks, food, pots and pans, clothing...it adds up fast. 

Top that with the unit's frame supports being too far inboard from the ends causing a cantilever, the camber can be lost from overloading and hitting a big bump.  It is very evident when your wheels toe in at the top.

Good camber:  About 1/4" gap with a straight edge.




Bad camber:  No gap with the straight edge.


Wheel tipped in at the top:


Offgrid's fix is a 3x3 structural angle supported by opposing U bolts to help stiffen up the cantilevered axle location.
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You're welcome! 

It was a fun trip that has been on my bucket list for a while.  It really deserves more time than I took to do it (4 weeks).  I hope to do it again when I retire and just take my time and mosey hitting all the fishing spots....



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Post Options Post Options   Quote poston Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jun 2022 at 5:15pm
Originally posted by kcisland

It was a fun trip that has been on my bucket list for a while.  It really deserves more time than I took to do it (4 weeks).  I hope to do it again when I retire and just take my time and mosey hitting all the fishing spots....

Awesome!  We plan to do a similar trip over about two months.  Do you think that would be enough time for a leisurely trip?

And did you just return, so you went the four weeks prior to mid-June?

Fun!



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