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offgrid
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Topic: Changing times Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 7:19pm |
+1. The plastic numbering system is a scam. Most places will only accept type 1 (PET) any type 2 (HDPE) plastics. PET is used in your standard soda/water bottle, cooking oil container, some other food products. HDPE is used in your milk jug, detergent and shampoo bottle. All the rest of the numbers just go in the landfill (if we're lucky) or the ocean (if we're unlucky).
Where I live they won't even accept glass, which is downright ridiculous. In the meantime CA is implenting a separate food waste recycling system. Recycling varies so much by jurisdiction it's crazy. |
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lostagain
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 6:44pm |
The plastic "recycle" marks on the bottom of plastic containers are a big scam by the plastic producers. Most of the plastic they produce is not recyclable. They put the little marks on it to simply identify the type of plastic and make us think it means it is recyclable when it isn't.
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offgrid
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 6:42pm |
If you can't recycle the paper then it's better to put it in the landfill than to burn it. It is sequestered in the landfill but if you burn it you will be putting CO2 and pollutants in the atmosphere.
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StephenH
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 5:52pm |
A lot has to do with where one lives, and the rules for recycling that one has to observe. For example, we just got an updated guidance for recycling that rules out things like take-out containers, even if they have recycle marks and are not polystyrene and are the same material as the bottles and jars that are allowed. It has to do with shape and the automated sorting equipment used.
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jato
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 5:15pm |
The GAOA was an amazing passage of a bill! Wow, bipartisan, how about that, miracles do happen. The old adage says, How do you eat an elephant? The answer, one bite at a time. We too can do our part as individuals to help the mess we are in. Recycle, recycle, recycle. All glass, paper, plastic, metal (washed clean of course) and cardboard is recycled. Seeing that we live in the country we have the luxury of having a burn barrel to burn items that recyling doesn't take or junk mail that is too cumbersome to recycle. That being the case last year we added a total of 3 garbage bags for the entire year to the landfill. Sad thing is we have neighbors across the street from us that generate more than that every week and no they don't have children in diapers. We aren't that old, but used cloth diapers for all our kids. It was a rare moment when disposable were used, convenient yes, but we felt guilty when they had to be disposed of, they don't break down - they are like cigarette butts - or tootsie rolls - "last a long time, last a long time."
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lostagain
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 2:45pm |
I personally think none of us should give up on trying to make the world a better place and to protect our planet. But, the reality of the economics of retirement limits our choices. We are probably not going to be making any large purchases, be it a vehicle, trailer, etc. for the duration of our turn.
John, I was one of those unaware of the GAOA bill. California state parks have been unaffordable for many years. Maybe the fact that most of the public can't afford to visit [not counting the folks mentioned by GlueGuy with the BMW's and so on] is leading to funding hostility on the part of the public. Who wants to pay more for their car registration when they still won't be able to afford to visit state parks? Maybe CA should institute a program where people could work as volunteers on park maintenance and earn credit for park use? Just an odd idea.
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PilotPodder
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 1:28pm |
Most people are unaware that the GAOA passed last year adding $9.5B in National Park infrastructure funding. Fully bipartisan so it rarely made the news in 2020, yet many of the projects are underway and/or continuing into 2022 and beyond. I put together a visualization of the spend and projects by state if anyone is interested: http://johnmarucci.com/great-american-outdoor-act-budget-map-and-data/
It is best viewed on desktop. If you hover over the project dollar amounts you can see detail on each project. Pretty interesting spend by state and park/property. ~PP
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GlueGuy
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 10:40am |
A few years ago there was a ballot proposition here to add a $15 fee per vehicle to pay for California state parks. It did not pass. We, OTOH, pay several times that amount for our annual "parks pass".
When we drive by the nearby Castle Rock State Park, we see dozens of cars parked along the side of the road (often BMWs, Teslas, & other higher-priced cars) so they can avoid paying the entrance fee. It seems the general population does not want to contribute to park maintenance.
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offgrid
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 7:57am |
While you are right LA about human nature, I for one am not going to use that as an excuse to give up. We can do what we can do, and our choices as consumers do matter in terms of the industries that thrive and the ones that disappear.
As for the relationship between park funding and access it is inevitable that development be restricted in the most popular parks. All that would be accomplished by funding further development is more environmental degradation of these special places. Yosemite visitors for example experience as much as 3 or 4 hours of traffic delays in summer, nor is any parking available after around 9AM. The trails are jammed. And that's just day use, nothing to do with camping. So I don't really see a viable alternative to restricting access in those cases and in our dedicated wilderness areas. As for providing more camping opportunities in less desirable areas that would be fine with me, but would be fought by the commercial park operators under the argument that it places public parks in competition with private enterprise. |
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lostagain
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 6:19am |
Indeed, Mother Nature is making it clear that we face a "pay me now or pay me later" situation. Human nature being what it is, we all want to put off until tomorrow that which we can manage effectively today but at a cost. The cost later will be vastly more dear, but it means less pain today.
Though our individual efforts are important in protecting our world, absent enormous institutional changes, it's a bit like trying to reverse the course of the Mississippi with teaspoons. We will all find excuses for why our own conduct doesn't matter and say that it's up to the other guy to individually bear the cost, while the big institutional polluters churn out more plastic every year for us to "recycle." We have been underfunding our state and national forests and parks for the last 50 years. Of course they cannot handle the increased demand. We should be expanding parks and national forestland but there is tremendous pressure to reduce public lands which we all depend upon for camping and other recreation. If we don't be careful, there'll be no places to camp without paying high private RV park rates for a space in a paved parking lot.
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