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StephenH
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Topic: Just bought a 2018 179 - towing issue Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 12:03pm |
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 11:45am | |
I agree, the TV height in the front will go up regardless of how heavy or long a wheelbase it has. But on a shorter wheelbase the angle is greater so it's more sensitive to how much wdh bar tension you have. I was surprised when I first adjusted mine about how much tension it required. But then I went through the numbers in the towing calculator and it made sense and matched up. On 18 inch bars I have about 400 lbs on each bar. Roughly speaking that will double under a 2g bump load. So thats about 800 bs per bar. My 1000 lb wdh hitch has bars each rated at 1000 lbs so I have a 25% safety factor on them under 2g loading. 600 lb ones would be overloaded, 800 lb ones would be right at their load limit. |
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TheBum
Senior Member Joined: 26 Feb 2016 Location: Texas Online Status: Offline Posts: 1407 |
Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 11:34am | |
What kind of effect do those have when you're not towing? Do you notice a difference either in a bad way or a good way?
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Alan
2022 R-Pod 196 "RaptoRPod" 2022 Ram 1500 Lone Star 4x4 Three cats |
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6289 |
Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 11:11am | |
+1 on SumoSprings. I installed a set on our Frontier. It makes a world of difference.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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GlueGuy
Senior Member Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2630 |
Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 11:10am | |
Even if you have a heavy enough vehicle, you would still (probably) need to adjust the suspension height. That would mean load levelers, sumo springs, or super springs or "something". I discovered this last year with our F150, which is plenty "heavy enough". I strapped up the Rpod without the WDH, and while it towed just fine, I found that the headlights were too high, and probably illegal.
I was in a hurry, and I didn't have very far to go, so I thought it would be "OK". I decided after that that the couple of minutes to hook up the WDH would not be the deciding factor in the future.
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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost |
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 9:52am | |
If you have a heavy enough tow vehicle you don't need a wdh at all. So a lighter TV is going to benefit from higher wdh tension than a heavier one will. Sounds counter intuitive I know. Highlanders have a relatively short wheelbase so I end up with about 750-800 lbs tension on my bars to counteract the 500lbs on the tongue and the (pretty light) load in the cargo area.
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1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold |
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GlueGuy
Senior Member Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2630 |
Posted: 22 Jun 2021 at 11:43am | |
We have the E2 600, and we are totally, completely, and absolutely satisfied with the way it handles our RP179. It is the one our dealer recommended.
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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost |
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 21 Jun 2021 at 6:41pm | |
I have 1000 lb bars. My tongue weight is 500 lbs, and the wdh also has to lift cargo in the rear of the TV. So I think 600lbs is too low. The only issue with a stiffer wdh is going to be a bouncy ride, which I don't have even with 1000 lb bars.
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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold |
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Pod People
Senior Member Joined: 22 Sep 2011 Location: Chapel Hill,NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 1067 |
Posted: 21 Jun 2021 at 6:11pm | |
We tow our 179 with an Equalizer 4 point, 600 pound bars. Very happy tow package with our ford Expedition EL Vann
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TheBum
Senior Member Joined: 26 Feb 2016 Location: Texas Online Status: Offline Posts: 1407 |
Posted: 21 Jun 2021 at 5:01pm | |
I'm towing a 179 with a Dodge Durango GT Plus and the E2 600/6000 pound hitch.
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Alan
2022 R-Pod 196 "RaptoRPod" 2022 Ram 1500 Lone Star 4x4 Three cats |
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