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pedwards2932
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Topic: Outriggers Forest River parts Posted: 04 Oct 2021 at 2:15pm |
I finally recieved my outriggers.....no screws and they weren't painted. I intend to use TEKS screws. I am going to space them evenly front to back 4 on each side. Everyone has been saying put them under the rollers for the slide out? My slide out is on tracks that are midway up on side of slide out. Where are the rollers?
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Sep 2021 at 1:05am |
Actually the stress on the screws attaching the outriggers to the frame are axial not vertical. As the floor sags it pushes downward on the outer ends of the outriggers trying to rotate them. So the upper screws go into tension while the bottom ones are pretty much just along for the ride.
That being said TEKS screws should work fine. Assuming they are 1/4-20 and knowing that the frame tube thickness is 0.1 inch gives an allowable pullout load of about 430 lbs. If the outriggers are 10 inches long (how long are they actually?) and the attachment screws are placed 3 inches apart in the frame tube then each pair of screws should be good for about 3/10*430=130 lbs. There's really not that much load from the sagging wall due to rpod light construction so I'd guess an outrigger every couple feet would be fine. Of course, if you have room to through bolt and use a large flat wwasher on the inside (don't overtighten and compress the frame tube!) then that would be much stronger and you could use fewer outriggers in those areas. |
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6289 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 Sep 2021 at 2:14pm |
The down side of using the screws or nuts and bolts for that matter is the placement of the tanks. They are too close to the rails to allow one to get in there to use bolts and if one uses screws and goes through both walls, one runs the risk of puncturing one of the tanks in the process. Since the black water tank is the one in question, that would be an ugly scene. I used shorter screws on the ones that would be at the tank location and went through one wall of the frame only. I figured the major stress would be vertical. Besides, I had already installed two homemade outriggers and bolted them. i installed two of the FR outriggers. I still have two that I need to get installed on the door side.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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PilotPodder
Senior Member Joined: 04 May 2016 Location: Portage, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 305 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Sep 2021 at 6:54pm |
Yeah, my cargo bay water leak was very disappointing. Strange, but none of my appliances have even acted up on my 179 in 5 full seasons, but the structure, especially the floors, are just not supported well nor are they made of the best materials. My Keystone Bullet 243BHS RV that I use for longer trips, has the new Hyperdeck composite flooring and its structure is rock solid vs the Pod. However, I have had issues with almost everything with a Dometic label on it, including getting the A/C replaced within 18 months! It would be nice if someone could get a composite floor, Azdel walls and better appliances in one RV! ~PP
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Portage, MI — 2017 RPod 179 - sold / 2017 Toyota Tundra — My RPod YouTube Videos
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pedwards2932
Senior Member Joined: 21 Sep 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 338 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Sep 2021 at 11:38am |
Ok did you post any of the pics? I still can't find any pics. I did look at your videos as well. I saw that you had the same issue as I did that caused your flooring in the storage area to get wet. FR did a horrible job on my 189 at the joint where the walls meet the front. They cut the wall improperly and tried to use a ton of screws to hold it together.....it all came apart while traveling and I had to relaminate the sides at the bottom edge. It is rediculous that mine in a 2018 and I just want to use it for 2 to 3 years as I am 68 now and I am not sure it will last that long.
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PilotPodder
Senior Member Joined: 04 May 2016 Location: Portage, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 305 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Sep 2021 at 10:05am |
I don't have the R-Pod with me currently, but the pics I took do show three supports (outriggers) welded, one near the front and two near the axle.
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Portage, MI — 2017 RPod 179 - sold / 2017 Toyota Tundra — My RPod YouTube Videos
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pedwards2932
Senior Member Joined: 21 Sep 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 338 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Sep 2021 at 8:44am |
I can't seem to find any pictures of a factory install of these outriggers? When I ordered them and asked the parts person if there were any instructions on installation and location for them she said FR didn't have anything but I should be able to find instructions on internet?
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Olddawgsrule
Senior Member Joined: 20 Sep 2017 Location: New Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1014 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 14 Sep 2021 at 2:55pm |
That in it's self is a good reason not to play any deeper. You folks know my opinion of FR and these risers.. Basically what I will say is this 'NOT' an off tar rig and thinking that raising the clearance of the Pod will get you there.. Well... I do wish you luck and chance that I meet you out there with my rig, I will 'try' to help. Adding a longer section of 2x2 tube(about 4ft long) will get you there with some additional support. Just adding the risers they sell... with TEK screws holding them.. Not in my lifetime. Safe travels folks!
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JA-Pod
Newbie Joined: 28 May 2019 Location: Raleigh NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 35 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 14 Sep 2021 at 2:54pm |
John, I checked my 2017 (Green ver) and no outriggers at all, so they must have added them in the 1/2 year change to be installed on your 2017.5 are they welded or bolted on?
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John & Allison
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JA-Pod
Newbie Joined: 28 May 2019 Location: Raleigh NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 35 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 14 Sep 2021 at 2:31pm |
good question on the optimal place to install them, I went with all 4 under the slide as directly under the rollers as i could get, logic to me seem this is where the most pressure would be on the side of the trailer. Not an engineer here though, on this forum there are others well versed in the engineering world
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John & Allison
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