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offgrid
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Topic: Hub cover Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 8:15am |
Originally posted by jato
No, I didn't mean to imply I was using a torque wrench to loosen. What I use is either the standard 1/2" Craftsman ratchet (which I purchased in 1969) or the 2' breaker bar (same make and year).
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Sorry Jato, I was referring to pedward's earlier post, not yours.
I use a 40 inch 3/4 drive breaker bar (vintage 1972 or so) and if things get serious I can put a 3 ft pipe cheater on it. Hadn't needed it for awhile but I used it extensively getting bolts loose on the old Ford tractor I bought this summer. Even with that I had to use a lot of PB Blaster and it took a couple of days soaking and standing on the cheater to get the front axle and steering apart so I could widen it. If you do the math that's around 1200 ft lbs. Now it has a 7 foot wheel track, couldn't roll it over if I tried.
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pedwards2932
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 5:53pm |
I couldn't get them loose using a X wrench and my foot......I really had to hammer at it with my electric impact.....hard enough that the chrome layer on one of the lugs had a crack. I would believe corrosionf for some but the threads were totally clean and no corrosion apparent.....my bet is tire guy got happy with an air impact.
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jato
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 5:38pm |
No, I didn't mean to imply I was using a torque wrench to loosen. What I use is either the standard 1/2" Craftsman ratchet (which I purchased in 1969) or the 2' breaker bar (same make and year).
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 5:09pm |
Maybe you didn't mean that but it sounded like you were using a torque wrench to loosen. Don't do that, it puts stress on the torque wrench for no reason, torque settings are for tightening things only, use a breaker bar to break things loose. Often fasteners take way more torque to loosen than was originally used to tighten them due to corrosion, which can take hold very quickly. PB Blaster the day before is great stuff to help for that, WD40 is wimpy.
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mcarter
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 3:53pm |
+2, after tire shops you have to make sure your stuff is right.
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 3:03pm |
I know what you mean. The few times I get new tires on the first thing I do when I get home is to LOOSEN them down to specs. I have had to get a 2 foot cheater bar on a wrench just to break them loose. Like you all have said, we want to be able to break/loosen the lugs in case of a flat.
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pedwards2932
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 2:52pm |
Some tire guys shouldn't be allowed to use an air impact wrench......the lugs were probably on with 150 ft/lb! I had to use an impact to loosen couldn't get them with a torque wrench. I returned the X wrench to Harbor Freight and got a torque wrench for $20. So now all greasing done and wheels torqued to 100 ft/lbs.
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 12:20pm |
I torque mine 90-100 pounds. To loosen I carry a 3/4" socket and a long ratchet bar. I also bring my 3/4" DeWalt Impact with me when traveling, I don't use the X tools but I'm a senior with a bad back, so I like tools:) Like you, I never want to be caught where I can't remove a wheel.
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Mike Carter
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 12:14pm |
Torque is to be 100 ft. lbs. Years ago I purchased a 1/2" torque wrench at Harbor Freight for like $ 20. Works well for this application.
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'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 12:11pm |
Another quick question. Mine has 3/4" lug nuts so the stud size is probably 1/2". I bought an X style lug wrench that has all sizes. I can't budge the lug nuts so I suspect they were put on with an impact wrench. I think the torque on these should be 80/90 ft lbs. I have an impact that I can remove them with then tighten them properly. It would be really irritating to have a flat and not be able to change it. Am I correct about the torque? I should be able to pull them with the X wrench.
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