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Topic: Hub cover
Posted By: pedwards2932
Subject: Hub cover
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 9:51am
How do you remove the hub dust covers on the wheels?  Tap with rubber mallet to loosen?  I want to grease the hubs.  Thanks.



Replies:
Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 10:33am
On my 178, the metal cover comes off with the wheel and tire. On the axle hub is a rubber seal that pries off (gently) and the zert is visible.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: pedwards2932
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 10:45am
Yikes so you have to pull the wheel to grease the hub?


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 3:00pm
No, just take a flat edge screwdriver and gently pry the center cap off.  After that as mcarter stated, gently pry the rubber seal off, zerk is behind.


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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: SC for Huskers
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 3:30pm
+1

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Happy Traveling,
Tom
2017 172pod
2011 F150 STX


Posted By: SC for Huskers
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 3:32pm
Well it didnt post to the ans by Mike,  I have to pull the rim, to get to the rubber cover

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Happy Traveling,
Tom
2017 172pod
2011 F150 STX


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 4:15pm
Jato,

My center cap is behind the wheel, so I have to pull wheel to remove center cap, in my case the wheel has to be removed to grease hub using the axle grease zert.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 4:21pm
Must be a newer 'improvement' that FR did between your model year and mine.  Haven't noticed that before.  Will be more observant in the future to see if the newer models are copied after your or my style hub.



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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 4:39pm
Better idea:)

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: pedwards2932
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 5:07pm
Mine is a 2018 and it has a metal cover.....so I guess I have to pull the wheel?


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 5:23pm
I imagine you do. If you want to not have to remove the wheel, leave the metal hub cover off. The rubber seal will be accessible.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: pedwards2932
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 5:30pm
No big deal just makes it a bit more involved than I thought.  Not sure it needs any grease but I bought it used and am trying to make sure all is okay.


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 6:33pm
You don't necessarily have to pull the wheel off. The metal hub cover has a part in the center that will pop out if gently pried. Then you can get to the rubber cover over the zerk fitting.



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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: pedwards2932
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 8:50am
Ok so a putty knife at the edge of the plastic cover and it pops out and you are able to access everything, no need to pull the wheel.  Just FYI if you have a paint can opener it makes it real easy to pull the rubber cover to the grease fitting.


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 11:31am
SH,

It depends on the wheel you have. My 15 178 has a all metal cover that is behind the wheel and tire, to access zert I have to pull the wheel and tire.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: pedwards2932
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 11:43am
Yes I was just referring to mine it has the plastic cap to the metal cover.  How much grease should you put in.....when I worked with boat trailers they had "bearing buddies" which were spring loaded to put pressure on the grease.  If you put in too much it would blow grease out the rear seal.  So I would think  you need to be careful not to over grease.


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 11:53am
Yep, if you have that style wheel the tire does not have to be removed. And , Yes you can overgrease and cause seal failure. You should also rotate tire while greasing, sure you know that. So you have to jack Pod up either way.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: pedwards2932
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 12:11pm
Another quick question.  Mine has 3/4" lug nuts so the stud size is probably 1/2".  I bought an X style lug wrench that has all sizes.  I can't budge the lug nuts so I suspect they were put on with an impact wrench.  I think the torque on these should be 80/90 ft lbs.  I have an impact that I can remove them with then tighten them properly.  It would be really irritating to have a flat and not be able to change it.  Am I correct about the torque?  I should be able to pull them with the X wrench.


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 12:14pm
Torque is to be 100 ft. lbs.  Years ago I purchased a 1/2" torque wrench at Harbor Freight for like $ 20.  Works well for this application. 

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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 12:20pm
I torque mine 90-100 pounds. To loosen I carry a 3/4" socket and a long ratchet bar. I also bring my 3/4" DeWalt Impact with me when traveling, I don't use the X tools but I'm a senior with a bad back, so I like tools:) Like you, I never want to be caught where I can't remove a wheel.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: pedwards2932
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 2:52pm
Some tire guys shouldn't be allowed to use an air impact wrench......the lugs were probably on with 150 ft/lb!  I had to use an impact to loosen couldn't get them with a torque wrench.  I returned the X wrench to Harbor Freight and got a torque wrench for $20.  So now all greasing done and wheels torqued to 100 ft/lbs.


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 3:03pm
I know what you mean.  The few times I get new tires on the first thing I do when I get home is to LOOSEN them down to specs.  I have had to get a 2 foot cheater bar on a wrench just to break them loose.  Like you all have said, we want to be able to break/loosen the lugs in case of a flat.

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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 3:53pm
+2, after tire shops you have to make sure your stuff is right.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 5:09pm
Maybe you didn't mean that but it sounded like you were using a torque wrench to loosen. Don't do that, it puts stress on the torque wrench for no reason, torque settings are for tightening things only, use a breaker bar to break things loose. Often fasteners take way more torque to loosen than was originally used to tighten them due to corrosion, which can take hold very quickly. PB Blaster the day before is great stuff to help for that, WD40 is wimpy.

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 5:38pm
No, I didn't mean to imply I was using a torque wrench to loosen.  What I use is either the standard 1/2" Craftsman ratchet (which I purchased in 1969) or the 2' breaker bar (same make and year). 

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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: pedwards2932
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 5:53pm
I couldn't get them loose using a X wrench and my foot......I really had to hammer at it with my electric impact.....hard enough that the chrome layer on one of the lugs had a crack.  I would believe corrosionf for some but the threads were totally clean and no corrosion apparent.....my bet is tire guy got happy with an air impact.


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 8:15am
Originally posted by jato

No, I didn't mean to imply I was using a torque wrench to loosen.  What I use is either the standard 1/2" Craftsman ratchet (which I purchased in 1969) or the 2' breaker bar (same make and year). 

Sorry Jato, I was referring to pedward's earlier post, not yours. 

I use a 40 inch 3/4 drive breaker bar (vintage 1972 or so) and if things get serious I can put a 3 ft pipe cheater on it. Hadn't needed it for awhile but I used it extensively getting bolts loose on the old Ford tractor I bought this summer. Even with that I had to use a lot of PB Blaster and it took a couple of days soaking and standing on the cheater to get the front axle and steering apart so I could widen it. If you do the math that's around 1200 ft lbs.  Now it has a 7 foot wheel track, couldn't roll it over if I tried. 


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold



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