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    Posted: 31 Aug 2010 at 5:06pm
Its only been a week so I wasn't going to prod FR yet.  I kept the email in my inbox as a reminder, I'll wait another week and try again.
 
rpodcamper - will you have an upcoming trip where you can load the kayaks cockpit-inward and see if that helps (sound and mpg)?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Aug 2010 at 9:06pm

I didn’t mean to push, just prod all of us. I agree with your decision not to move too quickly, I just wanted the discussion to continue so that possibilities such as the kayak loaded in a V might popup again or someone who shelled out the cash to try an air deflector on their car found a solution. Only through discussion will we ever hear these possibilities.

My overall goal for this thread was to see how others are doing relative to mpg and if we were all in the same boat, try to get Forest River to help find something to improve our mileage and their sales. I am sure if they are even discussing this they will have to evaluate if they find something it may help the mileage of people towing other brands of campers too. I do think, however, there is a competitive advantage for Forest River to help solve the problem. This forum and R.Pod Nation are a lot of folks who mostly have already purchased an R.Pod. There are also lots of folks on both forums who are trying to decide between the Pod, MPG, Scamp, KZ Sportsman Classic. If Forest River were to find or help find the solution to this problem, that new buyers and old owners of the Pod could benefit from, I am sure it would increase customer loyalty to their brand.

I never test towed the R.Pod before I bought. I’ll bet a very large percent of us drove off the dealers lot with a great deal of excitement about the great standard equipment, options and the feeling it is so light, it will be fairly easy on gas only to hit 50 to 55 and feel the gas pedal turn to mush and the mileage drop from 22 not towing to 11 mpg or so.

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Some more empirical data for you guys.  I owned an R-Pod 175 for about a year.  I sold it in June for other reasons, but when I bought it, I expected good gas mileage, due to what I thought was an aerodynamic design.  Yet, typical gas mileage was 10 - 11 mpg.  The TV is a Buick Enclave with a 3.6L V6, which, when not towing, gets around 20 - 23 MPG highway and 17 mpg combined highway / city driving.
 
My replacement TT is a Trailmanor Elkmont 24' trailer.  It weighs about 400 - 500 lbs. more, and is almost 6 feet longer.  It's a traditional box shaped TT.  Towing it with the Buick, I'm averaging 12 - 13.5 mpg, fully 2 mpg better than the R-Pod - an unexpected side benefit.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Sep 2010 at 1:44pm

Yup, about the same for all of us.  Our Sienna gets 23 with daily driving, got 16-17 pulling our popup (over 3000 pounds), and gets 12 pulling the 'pod.

BTW, we almost went to a dealership to look at the Elkmont last weekend Embarrassed, but they only had the 26 and we were enjoying an afternoon nap at the campground.  Don't tell anyone!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Sep 2010 at 3:00pm
Originally posted by techntrek

Yup, about the same for all of us.  Our Sienna gets 23 with daily driving, got 16-17 pulling our popup (over 3000 pounds), and gets 12 pulling the 'pod.

BTW, we almost went to a dealership to look at the Elkmont last weekend Embarrassed, but they only had the 26 and we were enjoying an afternoon nap at the campground.  Don't tell anyone!
 
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The 26' is a tandem axle and may be a bit heavy for your Sienna.  They now have a 26', a 24' original, a 24' bunkhouse, and for 2011, they have a 22' that weighs in at 2850 lbs. dry, nicely equipped.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Sep 2010 at 4:36pm

We like the layout of the 24 (original) more, which is partly why we didn't go look at the 26 they had in stock.  The dealer confirmed the 26 weighed about 3400 with options, vs. 3000 with options for the 24.  Once you add in clothes, food, fuel, stuff, the 26 would definitely be too heavy.

I don't like the price - double what our 'pod cost.  I've always loved the look of the 'pod compared to everything else out there, and the Elkmont is just like everything else.  I don't like the smaller holding tanks.  And I'm very happy with the length of the 'pod for towing and parking, just long enough for a double parking spot.  But that walk-around queen and full-sized shower is appealing! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 11:15am
I went from having the popup for 10 years to a 30' Bunk house Trailer back down to the R-pod.  It does not get the best gas milage but I like the features fo the rpod right now.  If I could talk my wife into it I would get a True Teardrop Camper.  A 5X10 Trailer with a queen bed in the from and the Gallery in the back.  I have also switched my tow vehicles a few times in the last year and half.  We started with a Jeep Liberty that my Wife totalled, then a Chevy Trailblazer which has a problem with the cooling system and keeps popping an circuit to the cooling fan, now looking at Full size Trucks or Dodge Dakatos.  I have also pulled the camper with my Ford Ranger short distances but would not want to do that very far.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 3:04pm
    Could it be possible that the downward curve of the back of the R-Pod could create more of a vacum and drag, than if it were square? I have read that some identicle TV's will get better MPG towing a larger heavier trailer as the Gulfsream Visa than they would towing the R-Pod. Perhaps it is Fuzzy math as our past president had used that term.      David
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 11:09pm

We purchased our 173T just a few weeks ago, I have very little data to add to this forum. Having said that we are venturing out this week for our first camping trip in this camper and hope to have some comparable information to share with other F150 owners not having the spoiler on the back of their camper. The only MPG data thus far is from when we picked up the camper at Couch's, camper completely empty, as was the bed of truck. We managed 15 MPG on the drive home, about 65% of the road was highway and I averaged about 62 MPH. My average MPG not towing is between 18 and 21 MPG, truck being a standard cab, 8' bed with the 4.6 liter v-8. This TV is severely anemic without a camper behind it, not much change with the camper behind it. After our 300 mile trek this weekend I'll report back with the loaded camper/truck scenario.

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So I was driving down the road and was passed a SUV with a rather large thule on the roof (about 3ft across and at least 15" high).  As I passed the airflow from the roof carrier rattled my windshield wipers.  So I was thinking that was a large airflow displacement, I was wondering if that would not be a double plus.  Extra storage on the roof, and a wind deflector in one. It looked like it would divert the main airflow impact on the front of the POD.  

Anyone use a roof carrier?  Might work just like the canoes?

Just a thought.

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