Tow-Haul Mode Questions

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   I just traded in my Jeep Liberty for a 2010 Chevy Silverado 1500 pickup with 5.3L V-8 engine and
6 speed electronic auto-transmission.  The pickup has 'tow-haul mode'.  I have never owned a vehicle
before that has 'tow-haul'.  The owners manual states 'use tow-haul when pulling a heavy trailer'.
I just got back from a 500 mile camping trip with the R-Pod. Going out I used tow-haul and mpg ranged from 7 to 11 mpg...this is not better than the mileage on my 30 ft RV with Vortec V-10!
On the way back I didn't use tow-haul and mileage ranged from 9 to 15 mpg.  
Since not using tow-haul I get a 40% or better increase in mpg...
Can I just tow in standard mode?  I realize that I probably will use tow-haul when going over
hilly roads.

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TIDALWAVE Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 21 Nov 2009 Location: MINNESOTA Online Status: Offline Posts: 315	Topic: Tow-Haul Mode Questions Posted: 24 Jul 2010 at 12:25pm
	I just traded in my Jeep Liberty for a 2010 Chevy Silverado 1500 pickup with 5.3L V-8 engine and 6 speed electronic auto-transmission. The pickup has 'tow-haul mode'. I have never owned a vehicle before that has 'tow-haul'. The owners manual states 'use tow-haul when pulling a heavy trailer'. I just got back from a 500 mile camping trip with the R-Pod. Going out I used tow-haul and mpg ranged from 7 to 11 mpg...this is not better than the mileage on my 30 ft RV with Vortec V-10! On the way back I didn't use tow-haul and mileage ranged from 9 to 15 mpg. Since not using tow-haul I get a 40% or better increase in mpg... Can I just tow in standard mode? I realize that I probably will use tow-haul when going over hilly roads.
	TIDALWAVE

techntrek Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group - pHp Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9059	Posted: 24 Jul 2010 at 2:36pm
	Usually buttons like that take you out of overdrive, that would explain the change in mpg. My minivan has an overdrive on/off and the manual states to turn it off for towing. The button could do other things like change the shift points of the transmission, modify engine timing, maybe rev limit, all which could give more power while also reducing mpg. A quick look online shows a top towing limit of either 6100 or over 10,000 pounds. Assuming you are towing about 3000 pounds with the 'pod loaded up for a trip you are at either 50% or 30% of your total capacity so you could get away with not using tow mode until you hit hills, as you said. If you don't use tow mode on hills you'll probably find the transmission downshifts more than you want.
	Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual

gepaine Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 05 Jan 2010 Location: Carnation, WA Online Status: Offline Posts: 29	Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 1:33am
	My Escalade's owner's manual says that tow/haul mode is most effective when pulling a load that is at least75% of the Escalade's tow capacity. (My tow capacity is 8100 lbs and our POD weighs 3100 packed for camping.) I plan on only using tow/haul mode in the mountains because the manual also states that this mode will reduce your mpg. (Ours also provides additional engine braking when going downhill - another mpg reducer, but also a brake saver too.)
	Gene & Linda - 2007 Escalade - 24-Foot Keystone Cougar TT - Life is not just about gas mileage!

HuronSailor Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 10 Jun 2009 Location: Owosso MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 704	Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 3:49pm
	I have the '08 version of your truck, and from what I've been able to decipher from the owner's manual, the pod doesn't weigh enough to make the tow-haul mode absolutely necessary. I also noticed the decrease in gas mileage when using it, so normally when on the flat an level I leave it off.
	.: Mark & Beth :: Silverado 5.3L :: 2018 rPod 180 :.

Cheerz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 27 Jul 2010 Location: Ohio Online Status: Offline Posts: 6	Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 8:08am
	I just picked up my rpod over the weekend and am looking forward to my first camping trip with it next week. I'm pulling it with a 6 cyl 2005 Jeep Liberty 4x4.

techntrek Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group - pHp Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9059	Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 11:00am
	Welcome Cheerz! Let us know which model you got, you can add it to your "signature" line if you want.
	Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual

barbanjoe Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 21 Apr 2010 Location: Arizona Online Status: Offline Posts: 126	Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 4:08pm
	Welcome! We also have a 171 we tow with a 2002 jeep liberty 4x4 v-6, picked up the pod in february and been out 7 times now. When towing take the jeep out of overdrive or else your trans will constantly shift and risk burnout. Your fuel economy when towing will be much lower, we range from 10-12 miles per gallon. On large hills it is second gear, 4500 rpm and 35-45 miles an hour to get over especially if tanks are full. We love the pod, wanted to keep the jeep and with care it all works out.
	BarbanJoe 010 Rpod 171 02 Jeep 4x4 12 Ram 1500

Cheerz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 27 Jul 2010 Location: Ohio Online Status: Offline Posts: 6	Posted: 28 Jul 2010 at 8:01am
	Thank you! I've updated my signature. Mine is a 175, and I keep looking at it sitting in the driveway and am really looking forward to trying it out next week in Brown County IN.
	Cheerz - 175

Cheerz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 27 Jul 2010 Location: Ohio Online Status: Offline Posts: 6	Posted: 28 Jul 2010 at 8:04am
	I didn't realize there was an overdrive button until about 10 minutes into the trip home with the new camper last weekend, but I found it quickly when looking for a tow mode. It's heavier than my old popup, but I'm glad to have found something so nice and well under the Liberty's tow capacity.
	Cheerz - 175