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    Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 10:06am
My Lowes had the bits, but not as a screwdriver. Plus, you had to buy a package of 4 same size, or atool with many different style bits, all of which I already have. I do appreciate the knowledge, and help of the
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 8:33am
I hope that works for you but if you find that it isn't working quite right you may have to move up to a Robertson #2 - which is the common size, or at least it is in Canada.  Typically the #1's are slightly smaller and are used for electrical stuff and smaller screws.  There is also a Robertson #3 which is more of a speciality head and is used for things like connecting power cord to the back of appliances like dryers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 8:26am
+1 - Lowe's has those.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 8:24am
I use a set that uses a common handle and has various bits including square, hex, straight, and cross. These bits also fit a magnetic bit holder for my power drill/driver. It seemed to me to be a better solution than hunting for a single-purpose driver.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 12:39am
I went to Lowes looking for a Robertson (square) screw driver. Lowes did not have one. Went to Home Depot and found exactly what I wanted. A number #1 with a common screwdriver handle. I brought a screw from my Pod to be sure of the fit. Problem solved.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 9:49am
Agreed. Square is slightly tapered which helps the screwdriver to hold the screw. The article did not specify whether there is any taper to the Torx or Torx Plus but the screwdriver does seem to grip the screw also. I have had both cam-out but neither of them is as bad as Phillips in that regard.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 9:40am
Believe it or not, I'd never heard of the "Robertson" screw head. I've been using square drive screws for quite a while, I was just ignorant of the Robertson designation.

As for superior screw heads, I've been partial to the Torx head for a while now. 

In any case, there are a number of designs that are superior for the generic Philips head screw. I think one of the main distinguishing features is that the sides are straight up and down as opposed to slanted. The straight sided heads are much less likely to torque out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 9:17am
The article I linked stated that Robertson had an issue with a British firm that cost him a lot of money  to get his design back so he then refused to license the screw head to anyone else. That kept them from widespread use even though they are a superior design to Phillips screws which were not so constrained.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 8:19am
For southerners south of the border and not really in the know they are sometimes called square drives. The screws used by FR and many other companies are #2 Robertson but your hardware store may know them as #2 square drives. Some screws are actually a double square which looks very much like, and are often confused with, a Torx (sometimes called star) but the Robertson will still fit.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Mar 2018 at 11:16pm
Thanks Guys. Before posting I went to Ace Hardware. They had no idea what I was talking about. So, again thanks, and I’m off to Lowes in the morning.
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