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Gavin
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Topic: Check Your Windows! Posted: 09 Jan 2016 at 10:56pm |
70 mph? is that a serious rationalization? Warranty, you're kidding right? With the problems I was having, how many would I continue to have after the warranty expired? You really expect me to hang on to hope at this point? I simply do not expect everything will be rectified before the warranty expires! Likewise, windows adjusted right or not should have been properly done at the FACTORY, and not by a new consumer who plunked down 15k.  Lastly, the gas alarm went off while using the gas heater, the very same evening, but I guess I need to also adjust the gas alarm or gas fittings too huh...yea I know it goes down the road at 70 miles an hour, so that also will rationalize that gas leak for you too. Yep those copper gas line fittings can shake loose at 70 miles an hour when you only hand tighten them....may I can get in the trailer and have someone zip me down the road at 80 miles and hour while I tighten up the windows and gas lines...hey a 10 mph buffer might buy me another month or two without problems huh? I will stand by the fact that the R-pod is a great concept but is produced by a first-rate, second-rate organization who has some serious internal problems at that Forest River mfg facility....Disgruntled; not Satisfied employees produce these kind of quality problems. However, today good news! I dumped the r-pod... that lemon was squeezed before I even bought it and bought another travel trailer, NOT mfg by Forest River! Berkshire Hathaway, might need to divest themselves of that outfit as soon as possible. However, these windows are fully caulked everywhere by the MFG and it has been raining good today and no leaks! And the gas heater worked without alarm too! But I digress, I only had it up to 60 miles an hours! Wow I had no idea 10 miles an hour would make all the difference in the world! ....groan If you send me a PM, I will tell you were you can buy it and you can tighten the windows yourself for a spectacular deal...how does that sound to ya? You can get it up to about 90 mph and fix away, surely you would not have any reservation whatsoever in placing yourself in harms way with a superior product huh?
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jato
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Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 9:02am |
I just read this and I have to concur! Use the warranty and get it repaired by the dealer. If Forest River didn't and won't do that, they won't be in business much longer!
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furpod
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Posted: 07 Jan 2016 at 10:09pm |
Originally posted by Gavin
Well not to beat good ol forest river to death but while camping this week close to hunting island SC I found another leak coming from underneath the bath room sink. It was coming from under the sink but soaking the small wood frame work on the other side of the wall which supports the seat...the plywood seat deck and frame support was soaked...and the emergency window which stared this whole grueling thread was still letting water in ( from a rain yesterday and today) but not as bad as it did this past summer...great! I'm done with forest river crap...I kinda liked the rpod but at this rate I won't have anything left but a moldy rotting heap in 5 years. I'm dumping this lemon as soon as possible! Caveat Emptor folks! Its not even worth chasing a warranty with these continuous problems...I could have a load of warranty work done only to limit out on the one year warranty and still have a mountain of issues later!
I challenged forest river to step up to the plate and address the quality issues by listing my rpod serial number and did they do so? Well folks what do you think? Do think a first-rate, second-rate organization be expected to step do so??? Not a word was heard from them and I know they read these threads!
But for the life of me I wonder why reputable companies such as dometic, high pointe and Surburban would want to be connected to such a shoddy organization!
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So.. you refuse to use the warranty and get it repaired? Interesting. BTW, the windows on a pod are not supposed to be caulked. They have a compression seal. The correct way to handle it is to tighten the clamping force on the window, by tightening the screws on the inside of the window. As far as plumbing leaks.. they happen. Check your plumbing. unlike your house, they go down the road at 70mph.
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J&Jcf
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Posted: 07 Jan 2016 at 7:10pm |
I have owned a number of campers and had leaks in most. Do not forget that the campers are flexing as they are towed down the road. I don't leave home without caulk,caulk gun, duct tape, plumbers hanging strapping, Teflon tape and the basic tools to make repairs. I also will not own a trailer with a slide out ( extra weight & another hole in the camper to leak ). Just my opinion & choice. I also never buy new . I don't want to take the depreciation hit. I am also very handy in making my own repairs.
This doesn't make it OK to produce a product that has problems and not stand behind it.
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Gavin
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Posted: 01 Jan 2016 at 9:27pm |
Well not to beat good ol forest river to death but while camping this week close to hunting island SC I found another leak coming from underneath the bath room sink. It was coming from under the sink but soaking the small wood frame work on the other side of the wall which supports the seat...the plywood seat deck and frame support was soaked...and the emergency window which stared this whole grueling thread was still letting water in ( from a rain yesterday and today) but not as bad as it did this past summer...great! I'm done with forest river crap...I kinda liked the rpod but at this rate I won't have anything left but a moldy rotting heap in 5 years. I'm dumping this lemon as soon as possible! Caveat Emptor folks! Its not even worth chasing a warranty with these continuous problems...I could have a load of warranty work done only to limit out on the one year warranty and still have a mountain of issues later!
I challenged forest river to step up to the plate and address the quality issues by listing my rpod serial number and did they do so? Well folks what do you think? Do think a first-rate, second-rate organization be expected to step do so??? Not a word was heard from them and I know they read these threads!
But for the life of me I wonder why reputable companies such as dometic, high pointe and Surburban would want to be connected to such a shoddy organization!
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Camper Bob
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Posted: 25 Dec 2015 at 1:33pm |
Unfortunately your problems are caused by the success of the Pods. I spoke to a factory rep a few months ago and asked specifically about the problems that new owners have been experiencing. He said when we bought our 171 the output on a daily basis was about 8 Rpods. With the success, the volume has increased almost 3X to about 24 pods a day. The dealers are screaming for product and the factories are pumping them out as fast as they can. The staff is overwhelmed with the volume and the pods requiring additional work are parked outside and a staff person is supposed to address any manufacturing defects. Looks like they and the dealers are falling down on the job. For the price that we are paying, I would suggest this is the norm for the industry. It is, what it is. Some close friends of ours recently purchased a new high end 38' diesel pusher for about $250,000. They have had it in for repairs a number of times on small but aggravating problems. The RV industry has still not caught up the with auto manufacturers with quality control. I think the US car makers a number of years ago had to play catchup with the Japanese manufacturers higher quality, and I believe after a number of years, they are now comparable. Not sure what would kick the RV manufactures to make better products. On the other hand, cars are not rolling domiciles with many additional subsystems and add on products. Once the initial delivery faults are fixed, if you take care of your Pod, it should provide years of satisfactory service. Other than a few dried out caulks, we have not had any problems at all with our 2013 171. Hope that gives you some reasons to deal with the initial problems. Safe Travels.
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Ronw435
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Posted: 25 Dec 2015 at 9:26am |
Now I am nervous, we just picked up our 2116 178 and have looked things over. The back window looked to have had a crack in the silicone. We had the dealer re-do the caulk over the rear window. I noticed however all the other windows just have the rubber seal but does not look like it will leak. My question is should we caulk all the windows?
Thanks Ron
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techntrek
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Posted: 01 Nov 2015 at 7:32pm |
I agree there is a quality control problem, but I don't see how you can extrapolate the long list of other issues like "low pay, cronyism" etc, from that.
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Gavin
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Posted: 01 Nov 2015 at 7:01pm |
Hi Keith,
that could be the case, but if a company has been in business for years dealing with vendors who supply parts and their own manufacturing process would/should be better refined, should it not? These rash of problems folks are experiencing is a reflection of something wrong within that organization. It could be poor quality control, employee turnover, crappy vendor supplied parts etc etc. Its apparent Forest River has made a good product in the past because they would not be as far along as they are, but something obviously has changed within that organization for these problem to be currently arising. Its pretty obvious something is amiss within Forest River because if they made RV's in the beginning like which are people are currently having problems with now would not carried that business 10 years down the road.
So, yes it could be an upper management issue in which they are trying to maximize profits since that fiasco of a fine they incurred.
Im not going to white wash these problems simply because I have an rpod. In my opinion it should have never left the factory with any problem whatsoever.
I actually still love my rpod and think its one of the best out there but I will not blindly look at something I plunked 15-16 k down for as being without any problems whatsoever.
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Keith-N-Dar
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Posted: 01 Nov 2015 at 5:16pm |
I think more likely since this problem has been non-existent until recently it is more likely that some materials were accepted that did not meet specs and it didn't show up until some trailers were already out. It sounds like FR is doing what it can to help folks with problems. Since they have been in business making RVs for years I would think that the management would understand that doing what you suggest would drive them out of business.
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Keith-N-Dar
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