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Calendar Event: newbie inverter question Posted: 25 Nov 2015 at 1:49pm |
Originally posted by Rockin the Pod
The one thing that I find kind of interesting is that my combo radio/dvd/cd player and my HD antenna amplifier all run on 12 volts. Wonder why they put a 120 Volt tv in. Scratching my head a little bit on that one. |
FR installs the cheapest TVs they can buy in bulk. All of the older pods were 120 volt units, only some of the newer ones are 12 volts.
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techntrek
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Posted: 25 Nov 2015 at 2:22pm |
Originally posted by CharlieM
Originally posted by JandL
The measurements with the 120 AC adapter with the TV running the current measurement was .11 amps and with a DVD playing .15 amps (.15A x 120V = 18 W). The difference in wattage between the DC and AC I think is because the AC Adapter is a small inverter. So if I wanted to play a DVD and run the TV thru an inverter it would draw from the battery .15 amps x 11 = 1.65 amps. If I ran it with just the battery it’s only drawing 1 amp. | I was with you until the last sentence. I'm not sure where the number 11 came from. The 18 watts seems reasonabe at 120V. Producing that from 12V with an 80% efficient inverter would take 18/0.8/12 = 1.875A That said, the 12V TV is still the best option. |
Modern DC power supplies use PWM - pulse width modulation, basically it rapidly switches the DC output on/off to achieve the desired voltage. Very efficient, very light weight, and almost zero tare loss when they aren't in use (but still plugged in). Way better than the old transformer-based supplies.
I think JandL is using "11 amps for 1 amp" in his conversion? Close, but the math should be done differently to be accurate. If you run the numbers for the fanless 300 watt Morningstar inverter that I like, it is 92% efficient and uses .45 amps tare @ 12 volts.
.15 amps / .92 efficiency = .163 amps @ 120 volts
.163 * 10 = 1.63 amps @ 12 volts
1.63 + .45 = 2.08 amps total at 12 volts
Double the amps vs. a straight 12 volt connection. However, if you only use the television for a few hours over a weekend it may not be a big difference.
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Posted: 02 Jan 2016 at 12:43pm |
Originally posted by Rockin the Pod
The one thing that I find kind of interesting is that my combo radio/dvd/cd player and my HD antenna amplifier all run on 12 volts. Wonder why they put a 120 Volt tv in. Scratching my head a little bit on that one. |
My pod is tucked in for the winter so I can't check this myself, but is it true that the Jensen radio/DVD/CD player is 12v? I always thought it ran on shore power only so I never tried it when dry camping.
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Rockin the Pod
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Posted: 02 Jan 2016 at 2:19pm |
GLBCamper-----I just went out and unplugged the pod from shore power, went inside and turned on the Jensen AM/FM and listened to the radio. I was sure that was how it worked but you got me wondering about it for a minute. I keep it plugged in here at the house. That's why I was a little confused as to why the television only runs on shore power.
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Posted: 02 Jan 2016 at 9:46pm |
Thanks for checking! I installed a 12v outlet and a pure sine inverter to run the TV, but didn't realize that I could also use the DVD player while dry camping. Score!
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Posted: 15 Feb 2016 at 8:32pm |
The guys at the factory fixed a few minor problems. They were really nice and helpful. But, the axle never got fixed. The insurer or axle manufacturer or the Rpod factory in Indiana turned down my request. Uninsurable problem, drivers fault. I have driven a trailer similar in size and weight to my 179 for 20 + years. I have hit similar bumps n the road and never had a problem. I guess I drive it like this and replace the tire when needed...
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Posted: 15 Feb 2016 at 10:05pm |
Originally posted by Plantguy
The guys at the factory fixed a few minor problems. They were really nice and helpful. But, the axle never got fixed. The insurer or axle manufacturer or the Rpod factory in Indiana turned down my request. Uninsurable problem, drivers fault. I have driven a trailer similar in size and weight to my 179 for 20 + years. I have hit similar bumps n the road and never had a problem. I guess I drive it like this and replace the tire when needed... |
Yeah, if they determine it was from a road damage.. not covered by warranty.. BUT you may be able to take it up with your insurance company. Just like if you hit something with the truck.. warranty doesn't cover it.. but insurance does.
On a side note.. if it does in fact eat tires, a stripped replacement axle is about $300... might, in the long run be cheaper to fix the axle as replace multiple tires.
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Posted: 16 Feb 2016 at 11:03am |
For that price I wouldn't make an insurance claim - and it is probably less than your deductible anyway. Save your claim for big stuff. I'd wait to see how it affects the tires. They may still go 5-6 years just with a funny tread wear.
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