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CharlieM ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797 |
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Yes angle iron will work. Even aluminum (aluminium?
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Charlie
Northern Colorado OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD |
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6418 |
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Okay, I have a question. What is the best way to place the scale and brick to weigh the R-Pod? I tried it using blocks to elevate the scale and wood platform on which I used angle iron to support my beam and placed it directly under the socket where the hitch ball goes. I've also seen it where people leave the scale on the ground and set the jack's foot down on the beam. Given that the foot is behind the hitch socket, there is probably a slight inaccuracy introduced by using the jack foot, but is it significant enough to make the weight too inaccurate to use?
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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CharlieM ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797 |
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OK. We're really down in the weeds now. The difference between measured weight at the jack vs at
the ball is small compared to the variances expected with other
variables such as water in the tanks, propane in the bottles, bikes on
the bumper and other stuff in the trailer, but here's the math.
If P = the weight measured at the jack, L = the distance from the jack to the axle, and M = the distance from the jack to the ball then the true weight W at the ball is; W=PL/(L+M) For example if P=300#, L=(14'x12)=168" and M=9" then: W=300x168/(168+9)=300x168/177=285#. That's about 5% which is well within the accuracy of the method and other variables listed above so measure at either point, call it a day, and enjoy your camper. Camp on! |
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Charlie
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6418 |
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Thanks. So, if I understand the formula right, as long as the weight at the jack foot is under the hitch weight limit, the actual weight is okay since the actual weight is a smidge less than the weight at the jack. Thanks. I'll take the easy way out and use the jack leg and keep the scale at ground level.
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CharlieM ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797 |
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You are correct. Take the easy way out. I have used this method:
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Charlie
Northern Colorado OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD |
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jato ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3329 |
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Charlie. (Using your method which I like) The weight you record on the scale is the actual tongue weight correct? That being so, I don't know if my bathroom scale is meant to handle 300 + lbs or am I missing something here. Here I am looking at something simple and trying to make it complicated.
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'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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CharlieM ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797 |
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Not quite. The weight you measure at the jack is slightly less than the actual weight at the ball but it will be close enough. Depending on the length of you trailer the difference is only a few percent but you can calculate the exact tongue weight as I described earlier in this thread. Note that the actual weight will vary from trip to trip due to variances I listed. If your scale cannot measure more than 300#, and most can’t, you can use the 2x4 and brick method described by Mike Carter (mcarter) earlier in this thread. Using that trick under the jack you will be pretty close to the actual tongue weight at the instant you make the measurement. |
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Charlie
Northern Colorado OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD |
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6418 |
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Okay, I'm a bit confused. In your example above, the weight at the jack (P) was 300 lbs. The result of your formula (W) was 285 lbs. Did you mean the weight at the ball will be slightly less than at the jack?
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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The easy way.. LOL
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6418 |
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Those scales are about twice the price I want to pay. I picked up a digital scale at my local Re-Store for a couple of bucks. Add to that a couple of bucks for materials, and I will use that for a whole lot less than the $137.95 and up price of the Sherline and other brand models.
I keep looking at my local for sale advertisements to see if I can pick up a used one, but no luck so far. |
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StephenH
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