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hogone
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Topic: PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 1:19pm |
i guess i want to say that i am not at all against towards wd or sway set-ups. just haven't felt the need, but as tech stated, at some point you may. after i dumped the loads, i encountered the same weather conditions (strong winds, wet roads) and lots of tractors passing me. POD performed flawlessly. i guess i will assume it was a combo of alot of thinks, but the full tanks (or mostly full) was a major player.
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Jon & Pam
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marwayne
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Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 11:16am |
I am using the original Equal-i-zer with build in sway control, no sway bar,
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techntrek
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Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 9:51am |
Originally posted by marwayne
He had no WDH no sway bar nothing and I think those are the same drivers that say we don't need all that stuff we don't even feel the trailer behind us.
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Which is why I recommend sway control for everyone, especially when they don't think they need it. It is like insurance. You hope you never need it but it is likely you will, some day. If you don't have it before that day, it is too late. I would now recommend the Reese dual-cam WDH. The E2 and Equalizer dampen sway but don't prevent it, whereas the dual-cam design actually prevents it from starting.
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Blue's Pod
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Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 8:58am |
Originally posted by hogone
as mentioned above, no wd or sway hook-ups.kickstart, you mentioned the bc. was just reading about that the other day by tech. the prob here was there was zero warning, pod didnt start swaying, it just went like that, nothing gradual not sure really would call this sway, its actually was like the pod almost went airborn but im sure it didnt as this would be impossible. the first semi was just normal turbulence, then the second and POW! honestly, if i would of had a small tv, i think well who knows. this wasn't something warnable (except knowing semis can be nasty). its really hard to explain!! was it the full tanks as podster mentioned? hogone |
It would not hurt to double check your mounting brackets on your tanks that were full. If it did slosh that hard. Better safe than sorry.
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Podster
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Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 8:47am |
Marwayne, what type of sway control are you using? Two friction bars?
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marwayne
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Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 11:24pm |
We just drove the Gorge on our way back to Canada from the PNW roundup, yes it was pretty windy but it was a lot worse once we crossed the Columbia river the last time and went up in the hills (windmill country)the wind was really bad, headwinds, crosswinds, swirling and heavy duty wind gusts. there was a RV (small tandem trailer) pulled by a pickup in front of us, man he was all over the road I had to pass him because I didn't want to stay behind him, when I got the chance I past him. I was doing about 65mph, after I passed him he tried to stay with me but he was swaying even more. He finally gave up and slowed down thank god. My point? He had no WDH no sway bar nothing and I think those are the same drivers that say we don't need all that stuff we don't even feel the trailer behind us.
PS; I had no trouble no sway nothing.
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Podster
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Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 11:06pm |
Oh OK, that's understandable...you guys be careful out there!
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Kickstart
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Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 10:50pm |
Podster, I didn't get any sway this time in the gorge, just buffeting. My knuckles and pits are probably just from my past experience of about buying the farm in this area. And hogone, when I wrecked the 20' Layton, I came over a rise into the gorge and was hit so hard by a side gust that the trailer also felt like it skipped to the side. So, I know how you felt. Incidently, I was running with a nearly full water tank which was located behind the axles (dual)--which I almost never did. This lightened up my tongue weight, sloshed around and added to the sway. I think I'd have been OK but for that
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Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 10:27pm |
hogone, I think it was a combination of everything, high winds, slick roads, bow waves hitting, no sway control, topped off by, not full tanks, but tanks almost full with its contests shifting and sloshing back and forth. It was all just the perfect storm. On a clear dry day with no wind, you probably would have evaded incident. And maybe with empty tanks and sway control you could have overcome the high winds, bow waves, and slick road. But combining all of those together, I think it's the perfect storm.
I think the title of your post nails it! PERFECT "SWAY" SCENARIO?...Yes!
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Podster
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Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 10:19pm |
Originally posted by Kickstart
I am still using a WDH. I was using a WDH and sway when I had the wreck. Some conditions are such that no sway WDH will ensure your safety, but I won't tow with a short wheelbase or marginal tow rig. My wrecked F150 was a short bed--never again for me while towing a TT. |
OK, well I figured you were, but wanted to make sure because when you said the white knuckle factor is still alive and well up through the CG, I thought about this new product that I read about today. It's a system that automatically detects sway and instantly calculates a solution engaging the left or right trailer break with no driver intervention. Check it out... http://www.direclink.com/swaycontrol.html
It works along the same line as technology used in cars to detect yaw and control it.
Dude, seriously...it sounds like you may be the perfect test proving ground candidate going down through the CG and all. Heck, I would love it if the company would send you one for testing. If they believe in their product and hear your back story and your current setup with white knuckles and all, and they believe in there product, they may just do it.
If anyone else has any direct knowledge of this product, I sure would like to hear it.
Good luck and be careful out there!
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Cliff & Raelynn
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