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Topic: Electrical Question in Campgrounds Posted: 13 Jun 2013 at 6:22pm |
As everyone else has answered the amperage question, I thought that I'd mention that the air conditioner pulls just under 12 amps running and the startup surge isn't that outrageous that it'll trip a 15 amp breaker. As long as the campground is delivering (at least) 110 volts, you can run the A/C using a 15-30 adapter. Note: that doesn't leave many amps for other loads, so if you're doing this, run the water heater on propane and don't run the micro/convection, coffee pot or hair dryer (or any other significant draws) while the A/C is turned on.
Oh, one more thing: here in Ontario in the provincial parks, a 60 or 70 foot run to the power post is common, so most of us carry at least 50' of 30 amp extension cord.
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Posted: 13 Jun 2013 at 7:33pm |
Thank you all for the great information. We will use the A/C only at night when we are sleeping and cook with LP on the stove. If using the microwave/convection oven we will do so but not run the A/C at the same time.
We tend to spend most of our time outside digging for rocks, minerals, gems and/or visiting National Parks. Tricera-pod is just a place to lay our head down at night or a quick meal. This is how we have done things in the past when tent camping.
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Posted: 16 Jun 2013 at 9:23pm |
Very good info throughout this post. Just want to confirm that plugging into a 50 amp outlet with the 30 amp adapter is 100% safe for the pod.
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Posted: 16 Jun 2013 at 9:58pm |
Originally posted by hogone
Very good info throughout this post. Just want to confirm that plugging into a 50 amp outlet with the 30 amp adapter is 100% safe for the pod.
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With the proper commercial "dog bone" adapter (with the molded connectors) it is safe for you and the pod. These adapters are available at camping stores. One end will only fit the 50A socket on the power box. The other end will fit the 30A plug from your Pod. No home brew adapters unless you REALLY know what you're doing.
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Posted: 17 Jun 2013 at 3:23pm |
Originally posted by CharlieM
One minor point. All that has been said is true, but with one additional thought. I have seen it reported that some of the campground 30 Amp connectors are worn out or non-functional whereas the 50 Amp connectors are working. Probably due to heavier use of the 30 Amp service. For those cases I carry a short 50 Amp to 30 Amp "Dog Bone" adapter. I've never used it but I love to solve problems before I have them. Quote the Boy Scouts.
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I have a 50 amp pigtail i carry all the time and when I do use electric I will use the 50 amp circa as I have found them to be cleaner.
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Posted: 17 Jun 2013 at 4:39pm |
I'm ordering one as we speak as well as an extra 25 foot cord just in case. Thanks for the info. jpp
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Posted: 17 Jun 2013 at 7:34pm |
Originally posted by hogone
Very good info throughout this post. Just want to confirm that plugging into a 50 amp outlet with the 30 amp adapter is 100% safe for the pod.
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Almost. The breaker on the pole is really there to protect the wiring between the outlet on the pole and the converter. A 30 amp outlet has a 30 amp circuit breaker, a 50 amp outlet has two 50 amp breakers (one on each 120 volt leg). When you use a dogbone you tap one of those two breakers. Now you have a 50 amp circuit breaker protecting wiring that is designed to only carry 30 amps. If that wiring becomes damaged allowing an arc fault it can start a fire without drawing enough amps to trip the circuit breaker. That said, I have seen higher-quality dogbones which include a 30 amp circuit breaker built-in.
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Posted: 18 Jun 2013 at 6:56am |
so not 100% safe is what I'm gathering, correct?
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Posted: 18 Jun 2013 at 7:10am |
Originally posted by hogone
so not 100% safe is what I'm gathering, correct?
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1 am with Techntrek on this. While you do have a 30amp breaker on the trailer that would not protect you from a short in the cord from the post to the trailer. So it is not 100% safe.
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Posted: 18 Jun 2013 at 7:38am |
Good info. So what do you guys do? Or as techntrek stated, purchase the adapter(dogbone) that has the 30 amp breaker built in?
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