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techntrek
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Topic: dual batteries Posted: 24 Apr 2013 at 9:10pm |
1% every other day in the winter, 1% per day spring/fall, 2% per day hot summer. Agree, it is feasible. As long as the panels are in the sun, since just a small amount of shading on a panel will drop its output greatly and not much more shading will drop the output to near zero. One more option to discuss - the poor man's battery charger. If you rarely dry camp so a generator or solar system or 2nd battery wouldn't make sense, use the TV. Every other day hook up jumper cables and run the TV engine for an hour. Since lead-acid batts charge faster the more discharged they are, waiting for every other day puts more amps in, faster. Not very efficient in the short term but much more efficient than buying a generator for a few hours of charging time every year.
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dsmiths
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Posted: 24 Apr 2013 at 10:07pm |
I can end this discussion about solar versus gen sets. get an old bike, rig a 30 amp alternator to the rear wheel. (alternators need excitation) get the grill hot. grill some brats, dogs, burgers etc, when the downwind kids show up, put them on the bike, hold out a grilled treat in front of the bike and tell them "ride for a dog" I bet it could work. it would be good activity for the kids, and charge the battery
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Dane and Donna Smith
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bodie55
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Posted: 25 Apr 2013 at 12:59pm |
I appreciate everyone's collective knowledge and the good discussion. I'm learning alot - and certainly have food for thought. We wouldn't be able to use the solar, even for maintenance, at home, since we live in the fog. But I have shore power for that. Camping on the coast will also limit the amount of direct sunlight. Perhaps a combination of the two would work, for those trips inland where there is more sun, and the generator for the cloudy/foggy days. A dual battery would sounds like it would at least give us enough power for the long weekend trips nearby. Seems like I'll be checking with the dealer and see if the 'free battery' they throw in is quality or if we just buy a good pair. I love the idea of human power - eco-friendly!
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Bay Area Crew
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techntrek
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Posted: 25 Apr 2013 at 7:33pm |
I guarantee its the cheapest one they could buy. If you go with dual batts get two 6 volt batts wired in series, it cuts down on potential issues.
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bodie55
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Posted: 25 Apr 2013 at 9:21pm |
Called the dealer. They supply an Interstate 12v 24 group 'marine-grade' battery. Looked online and it seems there were two models. Have to ask which one they are supplying. Still a better option to add the golf batteries, given the greater AH they will provide.
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Bay Area Crew
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k4fcp
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Posted: 13 May 2013 at 12:33pm |
I've been doing solar powered camping for 12-14 years and everyone makes good points; however, I do have some suggestions from my experiences.
Mounting panels on the roof is a terrible idea except for maintenance charging. I attach mounts to my panels so they are portable and can be directed towards the sun and also placed in position to get the most from the sun. This alone will result in a 30-40% gain.
There are two types of charge controllers PWM and MPPT . The PWM has a problem and results in your solar panels actual power being reduced by 30% (ie an 80w panel is effectively reduced to a 56w panel). The MPPT is more efficient and enables your 80w panel to put out it's rated power), actually a little more.
LED's are the way to go with lighting.......ooops, I have an appointment in 20 min so I'll post and add later as I can't see a draft function
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Rich
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