Cut Black Tank Rinse hose

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   I recently bought a used 2015 R-Pod 171. Took it to Seneca Rocks, WV and had a great time. Being the maiden voyage I wanted to try all the systems. The only failure was after dumping the gray and black tanks, I hooked up the black tank rinse hose, and found water spraying out of the electrical outlet in the bed area and filling the floor under the bed.
Turns out that the circular access hole that was cut in the bed area also cut into the plumbing of the black water rinse hose. I circled the areas in the image where it was cut, the elbow was probably fine, but the cut in the hose went all the way through. I had read that some people found the flow control to be installed backwards, but mine was not. I have to assume the previous owners never used the black tank rinse hose, because it would be hard to miss the amount of water that was pouring onto and under the bed.

I felt like this was within my powers to fix, and here are the parts I bought:

length of 1/2 inch PEX replacement hose
plumbers tape
PEX crimp tool
1/2 inch PEX pinch clamps
1/2 inch PEX coupler
1/2 inch PEX swivel elbow

The crimping tool was expensive, but everything else was reasonable. The steps I took were:
Detached the old elbow from the flow control valve
Pulled the hose out of the wall
Cut a short length of the old hose including the old elbow joint
Replaced the cut portion using a coupling+new hose+swivel elbow with pinch clamps
Fed the hose back into the wall
Connected the swivel elbow with the flow control valve using plumbers tape
Tested for leaks by running water through the black tank rinse inlet
The final product in the wall.

I feel like I got up most of the water, there did seem to be some dampness in the channel where the hoses are fed from the pump/heater area on the port side to where they emerge on the starboard side for the toilet/shower. It was certainly an adventure, and I'll know better on my next purchase to test all the water systems before leaving the lot.

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gnawed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 17 Apr 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4	Topic: Cut Black Tank Rinse hose Posted: 26 Apr 2016 at 8:50am
	I recently bought a used 2015 R-Pod 171. Took it to Seneca Rocks, WV and had a great time. Being the maiden voyage I wanted to try all the systems. The only failure was after dumping the gray and black tanks, I hooked up the black tank rinse hose, and found water spraying out of the electrical outlet in the bed area and filling the floor under the bed. Turns out that the circular access hole that was cut in the bed area also cut into the plumbing of the black water rinse hose. I circled the areas in the image where it was cut, the elbow was probably fine, but the cut in the hose went all the way through. I had read that some people found the flow control to be installed backwards, but mine was not. I have to assume the previous owners never used the black tank rinse hose, because it would be hard to miss the amount of water that was pouring onto and under the bed. I felt like this was within my powers to fix, and here are the parts I bought: length of 1/2 inch PEX replacement hose plumbers tape PEX crimp tool 1/2 inch PEX pinch clamps 1/2 inch PEX coupler 1/2 inch PEX swivel elbow The crimping tool was expensive, but everything else was reasonable. The steps I took were: Detached the old elbow from the flow control valve Pulled the hose out of the wall Cut a short length of the old hose including the old elbow joint Replaced the cut portion using a coupling+new hose+swivel elbow with pinch clamps Fed the hose back into the wall Connected the swivel elbow with the flow control valve using plumbers tape Tested for leaks by running water through the black tank rinse inlet The final product in the wall. I feel like I got up most of the water, there did seem to be some dampness in the channel where the hoses are fed from the pump/heater area on the port side to where they emerge on the starboard side for the toilet/shower. It was certainly an adventure, and I'll know better on my next purchase to test all the water systems before leaving the lot.

Podster Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 16 Sep 2014 Location: San Antonio Online Status: Offline Posts: 1108	Posted: 02 May 2016 at 7:25pm
	Great trouble-shooting here, thanks for sharing this.
	Cliff & Raelynn Ranger 4.0/178 (1/2 ton 5,800lb tow capacity)

JandL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 29 Mar 2014 Location: California Online Status: Offline Posts: 364	Posted: 02 May 2016 at 11:00pm
	If you have a portable dehumidifier you can put in your trailer. Shut all the windows and bathroom vent and set it to the lowest setting. I did that when I made a mess putting in a in-line water filter. I let it run for about 4-5 hours
	JandL 2013 Honda Ridgeline 2012 177 2 Paynes in a Pod

furpod Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group - pHp Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Location: Central KY Online Status: Offline Posts: 6128	Posted: 03 May 2016 at 9:48am
	Stuff being wet once or twice isn't an issue.. it's long term that becomes a problem with most materials.

rGod2013 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Chico, CA Online Status: Offline Posts: 19	Posted: 27 Sep 2016 at 10:42pm
	Hey, My first post. Very good article. I'm learning a lot about rv specific plumbing. Learning about pex plumbing. Only had a few encounters with those miserable clamps in past. Did not like them then. Like them even less now. Anyway, in your post, you mentioned a "flow control valve". I have a 2013, 178 pod that I have been working on faucet leak under the kitchen sink. I found the black water rinse hose in my travels but did not see anything like a flow control valve (one way check valve?). Does anyone know if these valves were being installed in 2013 models? Thanks, rGod.

JandL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 29 Mar 2014 Location: California Online Status: Offline Posts: 364	Posted: 27 Sep 2016 at 11:41pm
	" Does anyone know if these valves were being installed in 2013 models?" I have a 2012 trailer and what you call flow control I call a vacuum breaker/check valve it’s a backflow preventer. It is required as a safety device that prevents the potable/drinkable water in your home or campground from getting contaminated. I found out 2 weeks ago mine was leaking. The easiest way for me to get at it was to pop the wall off by the bed. The wall is only stapled on and so was very easy to pry off. I did not remove the whole wall just enough to reach the valve and tighten the loose hose fitting going into it. There is a small access plate on the bedroom wall so you can access the fittings going to the sink. If you have a mirror you can stick it in that space and look down at the black plastic square thing with a hose going into the bottom and a hose coming out of the side. See the picture at the top of the post by “gnawed”
	JandL 2013 Honda Ridgeline 2012 177 2 Paynes in a Pod

techntrek Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group - pHp Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9062	Posted: 28 Sep 2016 at 7:29pm
	Welcome.
	Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual

R&J Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 04 Oct 2015 Location: Mudgee NSW Aust Online Status: Offline Posts: 27	Posted: 28 Sep 2016 at 9:50pm
	does a 179 have a black tank rinse hose/valve sounds like a good idea?
	Rhona & John POD: 2015 179 'OzPod' Tow: 2014 Holden Colorado

StephenH Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6418	Posted: 29 Sep 2016 at 12:56am
	Our 179 has one. The hose connection is on the side near the door above the fender. The vacuum break/check valve is in the bathroom area, under the sink.
	StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS

R&J Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 04 Oct 2015 Location: Mudgee NSW Aust Online Status: Offline Posts: 27	Posted: 29 Sep 2016 at 4:36am
	Hmmm cant believe i have missed that! is it standard? sounds like a good mod if not? ours is a 2015 model.
	Rhona & John POD: 2015 179 'OzPod' Tow: 2014 Holden Colorado