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    Posted: 07 Aug 2016 at 6:10pm
We ran the fridge on propane whenever we weren't plugged in and over two weeks, including one night running the furnace, cooking everyday with the stove, and running the water heater a few of the days - we only used $2 of propane.  Not bad for two weeks!  The fridge definitely sips propane.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Aug 2016 at 1:53pm
Originally posted by WillThrill

Originally posted by alan7170

Originally posted by Tars Tarkas

Unless you have shore power, run the fridge on propane. The propane is what will keep it cold. The fridge has LED indicator lights and a contol board that use battery power even when the fridge is on propane but the battery usage is minute and relatively inconsequential.

For dry camping your single 12v battery will last maybe 4 days before needing recharging. If you're going to be out that long you need some kind of plan to recbarge.

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We have a 177 and I can easily go more than a week dry camping in summer with no recharge...fridge on propane, LED lights, the water pump is infrequent...there is really not much to drain the battery...

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The only stock item I've found that will really drain the battery is the furnace.  I would estimate that when we were running the furnace with outside temps down to the 40s and keeping it about 70 inside the Pod, the furnace would consume about 20 amp hours in a 10 hour night.  The furnace will also drain your propane rather quickly as well.

Exactly...which is why I have no problem dry camping the the summer for 7-10 days before needing a recharge.

In truth, my lovely wife and I end up towing the vehicle to dump the tanks and refill water once a week or so...and that recharges the battery...so I am not sure how long I could actually go in the summer...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 2016 at 11:46pm
Originally posted by alan7170

Originally posted by Tars Tarkas

Unless you have shore power, run the fridge on propane. The propane is what will keep it cold. The fridge has LED indicator lights and a contol board that use battery power even when the fridge is on propane but the battery usage is minute and relatively inconsequential.

For dry camping your single 12v battery will last maybe 4 days before needing recharging. If you're going to be out that long you need some kind of plan to recbarge.

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We have a 177 and I can easily go more than a week dry camping in summer with no recharge...fridge on propane, LED lights, the water pump is infrequent...there is really not much to drain the battery...

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The only stock item I've found that will really drain the battery is the furnace.  I would estimate that when we were running the furnace with outside temps down to the 40s and keeping it about 70 inside the Pod, the furnace would consume about 20 amp hours in a 10 hour night.  The furnace will also drain your propane rather quickly as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 2016 at 9:01pm
Originally posted by Tars Tarkas

Unless you have shore power, run the fridge on propane. The propane is what will keep it cold. The fridge has LED indicator lights and a contol board that use battery power even when the fridge is on propane but the battery usage is minute and relatively inconsequential.

For dry camping your single 12v battery will last maybe 4 days before needing recharging. If you're going to be out that long you need some kind of plan to recbarge.

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We have a 177 and I can easily go more than a week dry camping in summer with no recharge...fridge on propane, LED lights, the water pump is infrequent...there is really not much to drain the battery...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 2016 at 11:01am
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So, if the refrigerator is running on propane it doesn't use the battery? For some reason I thought it doesn't run on propane alone and needed the battery as well, and if the battery only lasts two hours? Guess that is two hours
solely on battery power.

Yes, 2 hours or so on 12v. Running it on propane, and using 12v as minimal as possible other then for the fridge brain, most boondockers can go 4 days, some report a full week. Weather, and what all you run, affects the battery life.

And if on accident I do run the battery down I cam recharge it with the tv, interesting... I will look closer at the other posts as well, so much to learn.

Use Jumper cables to hook the truck battery to your camper battery, and start the truck, it will charge pretty fast that way. Hooking up the bargman and running the truck also charges, but very slowly in comparison. If you are lucky, and have the "right truck" the bargman can push a 30A rate, but good jumper cables can move 4-6 times that, depending on the alternator in your truck.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 2016 at 4:37am
Unless you have shore power, run the fridge on propane. The propane is what will keep it cold. The fridge has LED indicator lights and a contol board that use battery power even when the fridge is on propane but the battery usage is minute and relatively inconsequential.

For dry camping your single 12v battery will last maybe 4 days before needing recharging. If you're going to be out that long you need some kind of plan to recbarge.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 2016 at 12:02am
So, if the refrigerator is running on propane it doesn't use the battery? For some reason I thought it doesn't run on propane alone and needed the battery as well, and if the battery only lasts two hours? Guess that is two hours
solely on battery power.

And if on accident I do run the battery down I cam recharge it with the tv, interesting... I will look closer at the other posts as well, so much to learn.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Aug 2016 at 10:56pm
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Recharging with the TV is certainly simple and cheap, but it might not be too effective. I recommend recharging through the 7 pin Bargman only in an emergency and only to bring in the slide. Due to the long length of #12 or #10 wire used in most TVs the best you can expect is 10-15 Amps, dropping quickly as the battery begins to charge. The more effective way is to use heavy gauge jumper cables directly from TV battery to TT battery. I ran some tests on a 50% discharged battery using 20 ft. #4 copper jumper cables and got 69A initially. Even after 35 minutes it was still charging at 28A. The jumpers are more of a hassle, but far more effective than the 7 pin connector. For comparison the on board charger plugged into shore power only achieved 38A to start and also dropped off quickly. However the on board charger will charge to 13.6 or 14.4 volts whereas the jumper method is limited to a little over 13 due to the built in limits of the auto charging system.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Aug 2016 at 10:19pm
Originally posted by CharlieM

Originally posted by myownskin

So, don't use the refrigerator unless you have a way too charge the battery, which I don't. This is what I seem to have read ;)

Not so. You can use the fridge on propane. It only sips propane and uses very little current from the 12V system. IMO the 12V option on the fridge has no real use and will drain the battery very very quickly, even while driving with the 7 pin Bargman connected.

The big user of propane and 12V current is the furnace. Also note that if you do run the battery down it can be recharged enough to retrieve the slide by running the TV 10-15 minutes with the fridge on propane.


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Using your tow vehicle to recharge your batteries is an all too often overlooked option.  It's simple, effective, and cheap.
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