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JandL ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 2014 Location: California Online Status: Offline Posts: 364 |
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I forgot to add I did not have to drill out the bracket. The hole thru it was something slightly over 1/4" diameter
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JandL
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Retroactive ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 2016 Location: Bolton, MA Online Status: Offline Posts: 270 |
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Thanks. So 1/8" thick puts it at 2.5 threads if my brain is working right. I usually like to use the 3 thread rule, but for supplemental support that is plenty good. I may have to borrow the taps from work one day!
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6418 |
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In case anyone is interested, this is the type screw used for the tanks. There were two in each bracket, both in the bottom holes. The top holes had nothing.
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JandL ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 2014 Location: California Online Status: Offline Posts: 364 |
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You could use a ¼-28 bolt and get about 3.5 threads; it would also be easier to tap. I had ¼-20 bolts so I used what I had. You still have to be careful when installing them in such thin material so they don’t strip out the tapped treads. The failure mode of the tank support bracket is in shear (cut off) and not tension (stretched) so you only need to tighten them up enough so they don’t unscrew.
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Retroactive ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 2016 Location: Bolton, MA Online Status: Offline Posts: 270 |
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That is my fear, thread stripping during tap or install - I can tend to get a little overenthusiastic during tightening. Definitely not worried about the shear strength on those bad boys. I have to remember to get under my new 171 to take a look before next Friday.
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JandL ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 2014 Location: California Online Status: Offline Posts: 364 |
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I used a 7/16” nut driver to install the bolts. Most of the time it’s hard to generate enough torque with a screwdriver handle type tool, plus you will be on your back under the trailer and in a narrow space so it will hard to get any kind of leverage to generate enough torque with one hand to strip them out. There may be people with enough hand strength to strip the threads, I am not one of them.
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Retroactive ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 2016 Location: Bolton, MA Online Status: Offline Posts: 270 |
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OK, I get it now. I imagine it is not easy to maneuver under there. The only time I went under was to scope out where all the wires run, already planning to install some form of "Reverse Light".
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Appocalexx ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 May 2015 Location: AK Online Status: Offline Posts: 77 |
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Dang I will for sure be adding this to my list of things to do, or at least check. Great thread. Things like this should be stickied or linked to another thread with mass info on it.
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timpod ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 19 Feb 2016 Location: Oregon Online Status: Offline Posts: 43 |
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Thanks for the heads up on this one! I just checked my pod and the cross frame supports on all the tanks are too short. There is a 1/4" gap on the end of each support and two screws bridging the gap. An accident waiting to happen.
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6418 |
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timpod, glad you caught it. The dealer did nothing more than take an impact driver and tighten them. I did not trust that after one of the screws stripped and he had to drill and put one between the original two locations. That is why I decided to drill and install stainless steel bolts, washers, and locknuts. I'm pretty sure now that my tanks will stay in their correct locations.
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