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Luv2Q
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Topic: TV - RPMs Posted: 03 Dec 2014 at 8:54pm |
Originally posted by wildfire305
I just got it (the durango) a few days ago. Not sure on the rear differential. Is that on the door jamb tag? It doesn't even have the hitch on it yet. Early spring project for the hitch and all my wiring. I get to start over and get a different brake controller this time. The Odyssey transmission went the day after Thanksgiving and I bought the durango Saturday. |
And you'll be installing a transmission cooler, yes? If it doesn't have a hitch installed, I'm guessing no tow package. Ergo, probably no tranny cooler.
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John & Teri
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Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 12:55am |
All V8 Durangos of my vintage come standard with heavy duty trans cooler, power steering cooler, tow haul transmission shift override. Really the hitch and wiring is all it's missing. And brake controller.
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Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 7:13am |
Wildfire - I sent you a PM.
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Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 7:33am |
Thanks for all of the input. Good news/bad news. Good - my Odyssey can handle it and more RPMs is fine. Bad - I have 137,000 miles on it and keep hearing that Honda transmissions may fail. Good - I may get a new TV out of the deal. Its only money. Its amazing how these hobbies seem to have a cascading effect.
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Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 9:50am |
Originally posted by Bonjour
Its amazing how these hobbies seem to have a cascading effect. |
Very true statement...I have been shelling out the greenbacks nonstop since the initial purchase. I guess it's like any other hobby, it's take some time and money to get set up, but once you have everything just the way you want it, hopefully, the debit account will resume normal operations.
As far as your TV, if I understand this correctly, you are at or very close to the maximum limits of the rig so getting something with a little more headroom, increasing your load, power, and safety margins is not a bad thing. Additionally, more TV capability garners less stress all the way around which makes making things more enjoyable all the way around.
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Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 10:29am |
All transmissions fail eventually :). If I had a vehicle that towed the camper very well, but I had to replace the transmission every 100k, I would still do it if the vehicle suited my needs more than any other. The Ody didn't tow it what I would consider "very well".
I totally agree with Podster - a lot of money will flow towards the camper for a while, but when you get it set up the way you want, it stops.
True also about the tow vehicle. The Odyssey can tow the camper, but I never felt very comfortable driving it. Just seemed like the Odyssey wouldn't be a confident vehicle if something scary happened. I don't know if things will be better with my Durango, but it weighs a 1000 pounds more than the Ody, so that will feel a bit more stable.
I have driven several truck and trailer setups at work, and towing with the F450 dump truck is my favorite. But not very practical for a family :). Seems the heavier tow vehicles will feel better towing. Someone else posted above said that power isn't everything, balance is more important. For example, a Mustang has a lot of power, but would make a horrible tow vehicle. Towing a 3000 pound camper with a 5500 pound vehicle will lend more control than a 4300 pound vehicle.
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Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 11:00am |
I just got it (the durango) a few days ago. Not sure on the rear differential. Is that on the door jamb tag? |
Wildfire: The tag is located on the glove compartment door (at least on mine). I've owned my Durango for ten years now. It's got over 150k on it, virtually all trouble-free miles. The transmission on these 2nd Gen Durangos is Mercedes Benz-derived (since Daimler owned Chrysler at that time). It's actually a very good transmission, but the lack of ability to lock into 4th is aggravating to me. The 4.7 isn't bad, but it could use a few more horses and foot-pounds when pulling the Pod in cross winds and up steep grades.
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Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 11:08am |
That tag is missing on mine. I see evidence of where it was in the glove box. I might have give the VIN to Chrysler to find out or crawl under there and look at the pumpkin. While reading my manual, I noticed that it said tow/hual mode cuts off 5th gear and stops at 4th. It also changes the shift points. Is that a difference between 04 and 05? I'll have to go out for a drive and count the gears today between modes.
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Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 11:33am |
Originally posted by wildfire305
That tag is missing on mine. I see evidence of where it was in the glove box. I might have give the VIN to Chrysler to find out or crawl under there and look at the pumpkin. While reading my manual, I noticed that it said tow/hual mode cuts off 5th gear and stops at 4th. It also changes the shift points. Is that a difference between 04 and 05? I'll have to go out for a drive and count the gears today between modes. |
You're correct: T/H locks it out of fifth, stopping up-shifts at 4th. As far as T/H changing shift points, the consensus on a Durango forum I used to frequent when I first bought the Durango was that T/H did nothing with the shift points. My ten years of towing with the Durango would seem to bear that out, but it's a bit difficult to prove one way or the other. My Durango did not have a tow package, but as has already been mentioned, all 2nd Gen Durangos have auxiliary trans coolers. I added the receiver hitch and wired for brake/lights, so no real difference between factory tow package and mine at this point (other than larger mirrors on factory tow package).
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Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 2:52pm |
On Chevys the tow-haul does change the shift points, it holds it in a given gear longer before upshifting, downshifts more easily, and increases the line pressure to reduce wear on the clutch packs. It also modifies the "single tap on the turn signal" from 3 flashes to 6, and supposedly upps the alternator's voltage but I've never seen that on the dash gauge. Finally it activates a more aggresive engine braking mode.
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