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    Posted: 11 Nov 2013 at 9:25pm
In the instructions I've posted (link in my sig), I recommend opening the low point drains, and the other valves, one at a time.  Just long enough to see dark pink.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2013 at 3:58pm
Originally posted by furpod

when I blew out my lines, I hooked up my compressor, set it to 30 psi or so, opened the low points and let it blow for a few minutes, then did each valve separately, and let it blow until I felt it was as dry as it was going to get.

In all honesty, my take on it is this.. your pod is plumbed with PEX. PEX can be frozen solid and it will not burst. Seen, it done it. In fact was just thinking the other day of doing a demonstration directly of such, since I have some PEX tubing and fittings laying around.. The big danger, IMHO is the water pump, faucets/valves, P traps, and WH. NONE of those will survive a freeze. They are what you are trying to protect with winterization. So, no matter what method you use, as long as THOSE are protected, the rest is gravy.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2013 at 11:12am
when I blew out my lines, I hooked up my compressor, set it to 30 psi or so, opened the low points and let it blow for a few minutes, then did each valve separately, and let it blow until I felt it was as dry as it was going to get.

In all honesty, my take on it is this.. your pod is plumbed with PEX. PEX can be frozen solid and it will not burst. Seen, it done it. In fact was just thinking the other day of doing a demonstration directly of such, since I have some PEX tubing and fittings laying around.. The big danger, IMHO is the water pump, faucets/valves, P traps, and WH. NONE of those will survive a freeze. They are what you are trying to protect with winterization. So, no matter what method you use, as long as THOSE are protected, the rest is gravy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2013 at 7:03am
a couple questions when blowing lines out.  do you just turn on all the faucets and pull the toilet handle all at once or one at a time?  also i recall last year after i finished pumping af through the system, the last thing i did was open the two low water drains and quite a bit of clear water came out prior to the pink stuff, so there definitely is some left over water down there.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Nov 2013 at 11:54pm
Originally posted by Keith-N-Dar

When I am done with the air there is no water in the system, so the pink stuff is pure in the lines. In spring I fill up the tank and start the pump, then run the water in each location until they run clear. Pink stuff gone.


You might be surprised if you were to open the low point drains after you blow out the lines and before you put any antifreeze in.  Not saying your method doesn't work.  Obviously it does.  Probably mostly due to diluted antifreeze and the Pex tubing, or whatever it is the pipes are made of, that tolerates at least some freezing without bursting.  The drains are like appendixes though; water doesn't circulate in them and you can't blow them out without opening them. 

For what it's worth, the caps on my drains are only hand-tight.  No tools needed to open or close them.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Nov 2013 at 10:46pm
Aside from the FW tank drain, I have 2 low point drains that point straight down with caps.  I ALWAYS opened and drain them.  I blow out the lines first, then drain them, then add pink stuff.  It usually only gets down to 20 degrees for a week in GA, but I'd be concerned that the small amount of water would freeze and cause damage. Blowing the lines out with air doesn't clear those downward pipes. It takes about 2 minutes to do it ... Better safe than sorry.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Nov 2013 at 9:15pm
I'm going with the Wisconsin folks! That's like close to the arctic circle. They know cold!

I do think, however, the best way to winterize is to go south!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Nov 2013 at 8:33pm
FWIW I shared what I do. If anyone wants to use the low point drains then they should. FR puts them on the pods for a purpose, and I don't want to have anyone not do what they feel is the right way to winterize just because of the way I do it. It has worked for me but YMMV.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Nov 2013 at 8:28pm
Originally posted by Tars Tarkas


Originally posted by Keith-N-Dar

I have never opened the low point drains other than the one on the water tank.  The air and the pink stuff takes care of the low points in the lines for me.

Undiluted RV antifreeze is supposed to protect pipes to minus 50.  I don't know how well it mixes in the bottom of a still pipe.  Probably well enough.  But due to their location and purpose, the low point drains are probably the most susceptible to freeze damage of any thing on the pod. If the drains do burst they'd be cheap to fix.  Maybe a little trouble, dealing with insulation.  How do you flush the antifreeze without opening the low point drains though?TT


When I am done with the air there is no water in the system, so the pink stuff is pure in the lines. In spring I fill up the tank and start the pump, then run the water in each location until they run clear. Pink stuff gone.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Nov 2013 at 7:52pm
Originally posted by dsmiths

. spring is around the corner.
sh*t, I wish!  We are just now preparing for four months of no sun. 
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