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    Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 8:36pm
Stephen, did you get the mower deck option on the Metro? Just kidding. It was a fun car to drive. I had a MG Midget when I lived in California. We joked that you wore a Midget more than you drove it. Nonetheless, for as small as it was, it had a full set of gauges. Loved that little sponge, I mean car.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote StephenH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 7:21pm
Funny you mentioned the Civic. After the accident, we used a Ford Falcon that my Dad drove down for us. In 1977, we purchased a Honda Civic CVCC wagon. It was called a wagon because it had the squared off back of a wagon, not because it was a land yacht like the ones my parents had. It was a standard (like the Pinto was), and was fun to drive. I agree it sat rather low. Then again, so did the MGB I had the opportunity to drive once and it was a convertible at that. I think I could have driven under a semitrailer, but it is something I will leave for stunt men.

Another car we have had was a Geo Metro. It was interesting with the 3 cylinder engine. It also was fun to drive, but it would not have been a good one for long trips, even though it did get really good gas mileage.
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And let's not forget another sweet car, the AMC Gremlin.  After selling my '69 Corvette (had to so I could continue to pay my way through college debt free) I purchased a brand new 1974 Gremlin off the lot (3.8L V-6) for $ 2902 out the door, and that included taxes and license plate transfer.  Even got recognition at a church I went to near the campus of M.S.U. in East Lansing, MI for bringing the most people in one car - 10 of us!  Would most likely get a ticket for doing that today as the 3 in the back had their legs hanging out the rear window.

A scary car I remember being a passenger in during that same time was a friends Honda Civic.  Going down the expressway you could easily see the undercarriage of semi's as they whizzed by, the car sat that low.

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Indeed, StephenH, you and your wife were very fortunate.  Someone was watching out for you two.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote gpokluda Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 4:34pm
I remember there was a Cosworth version of the Vega back then. They were supposed to be quite peppy. In the eighties, my dad bought a Pinto station wagon. He welded a roof rack on to it and used it for the handy man business he started after he retired. He had a perfectly good pickup, but didn't want to put miles on it.
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It was a 1971 Pinto. Yes, the silica coating on the cylinder walls was the issue. It was an idea to save weight of a cast iron block, but the technology was just not there for it to succeed.

The Pinto died in another accident on our honeymoon in 1975. We slid into an intersection on slick roads during a hurricane going up through PA. A tree was hanging down over the stop sign. By the time I saw the stop sign and hit the brakes, I could not stop and as we slid in, a flatbed semi shaved the front end of the Pinto off from the radiator on forward and bent the front from the windshield on forward. We did not get hurt, but we did count our blessings of not having arrived at that intersection a second earlier. If we had, I would not be typing this.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote lostagain Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 3:37pm
StephenH, what year was your Pinto?  The recalled ones for the gas tank issue were made between 1971 and 1976 with the recall of 1.5M Pintos and 30K Bobcats taking place in 1978.  

Ah, yes the Chevy Vega, one of the worst cars ever made by GM.  Didn't they experiment with some kind silica coating on the walls of the cylinders that wore off when the pistons got distorted due to excessive heat from an inadequate cooling system?
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Come on now. Pintos did not spontaneously explode. I had one. I even had a rear-end collision of a sort. I stopped for a red light because the signal was changing and I hit the brakes instead of trying to get through the yellow light. A Volkswagen Beetle behind me did not stop quite so quickly. His bumper hit my tailpipe. It broke the muffler hanger and I could see where the exhaust pipe hit the brake line. I think it wasn't flattened because of the pressure it was under. He had a bent bumper to show for it. I took a piece of an old tire to make a replacement muffler hanger and drove it until the exhaust system needed replacing when the muffler rusted out.

My Pinto lasted better than a classmates Chevy Vega. That thing was covered in rust spots the first winter and the aluminum engine block needed to be bored out and iron sleeves put in to stop it form burning oil.

The Pinto replaced a 63 Corvair that I drove when I first got licensed. It was not turbo and it did have the swing axle. It wasn't until after it started dancing when I pulled back in my lane after passing a car that I read Unsafe At Any Speed. Then I understood why it had done that. I also found out that it was not very good on ice from freezing rain after making a couple of 360 degree turns and ending up in a snowbank. Other than that, the 2 speed automatic was really bad. I'm glad it had the automatic though as I got hurt and could drive with my left foot since it didn't have a driveshaft tunnel.
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FWIW, I'd take a Corvair Corsa Turbo in a heartbeat. Great fun. But I wouldn't get in a Pinto unless my life depended on it. And even then I'd have to think about it.
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Some companies try to push design while some try to maximize profit and some try to do both. From my time in the motorcycle industry, mechanics loved to work on Hondas because they were easy. We hated to ride Hondas because it was like kissing your sister. The design by committee approach Honda used refined all of the character out of the bikes. On the other hand, mechanics did not like working on Yamahas because they were hard, but we loved riding them because they were exciting.

Not sure where I was going with that but there it is.
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