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jim park ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 04 Apr 2011 Location: brownsville tx Online Status: Offline Posts: 40 |
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thanks i may just do that.
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TravelingTeacher ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Apr 2011 Location: Calhoun, GA Online Status: Offline Posts: 16 |
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Hey Outbound,
Don't mean to sound ignorant here, but what is the difference between and inverter and a generator? When I went to the page, the Yamaha 2400 EF2400iS-HC that you posted, it calls it an inverter not a generator. I've never used a generator before but there is a campground I am very interested in but it has no hookups. Is a generator hard to use or hook up? Are there any risks to your camper electrical systems? I know I sound ignorant, but that's because in this department, I am! I would appreciate any pointers from anyone in the forum, truly I would.
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TravelingTeacher ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Apr 2011 Location: Calhoun, GA Online Status: Offline Posts: 16 |
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I mean "AN" inverter, not "AND!" We teachers have to get it right!
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Pawpod ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 2011 Location: Regina Sask Online Status: Offline Posts: 137 |
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From what I understand is a generator produces power that can be subject to spikes and brownouts, ok for power saws and lights, very bad for computers, microwaves, and other RV components. A generator/inverter produces power very close to your household power, no spikes, brownouts, Ect... A inverter converts 12 volt into 120 volt.
I'm sure I am over simpleizing this and some one will have a more technical explanation. ![]() |
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Outbound ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Nov 2009 Location: Oshawa, Ontario Online Status: Offline Posts: 767 |
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As you've spotted, the word 'generator' is generally used to identify both a generator and an inverter generator (Yamaha is the only manufacturer I've spotted who shortens the name to just 'inverter'). A generator produces 120 volts alternating at 60 cycles per second (120v AC) by essentially rotating a magnet within a coil of wire. A generator is a simple machine: to maintain the 60 cycles per second, it must maintain a constant rotational speed. As you put more load on a generator (i.e. you plug more things in), there is more resistance as the generator tries to spin the magnet and the motor must work harder to maintain the rotational speed. Although its a pretty good system, there are some drawbacks. First: as loads are added, the generator must ramp-up power and during this time the voltage and the cycles per second will drop, producing 'dirty' power (brownouts and spikes). Second: the 60 cycles per second is a fixed requirement (even when there is little or no load), requiring the engine to be running constantly at a high speed. An inverter generator uses electronics to improve performance. The generator produces direct current (as opposed to alternating current) and this is run through some electronics to convert it to 120v AC and clean-up the blips in the incoming power as it ramps up/down under load. An inverter generator doesn't need to maintain a constant engine speed to keep up to the 60 cycles per second as the electronics adjust the incoming power to a standard of 120v AC. The net advantage to an inverter generator is that it provides cleaner power and is able to idle at a much lower (and quieter) level.
A generator is very easy to use and, once its started and warmed-up, you simply plug in your RPOD (an adapter may be necessary, but you've probably already got one for plugging your RPOD into your house). An RPOD has a fantastic WFCO converter which will recharge your battery automatically and very quickly. It'll take the WFCO less than an hour to bulk charge your battery (bringing it to a 75% charge), which is all you're trying to accomplish while on generated power. NOTE: it takes an additional 8 hours or more to fully charge a battery that is at 75%. There is some generator maintenance required, however. At least once a year, you'll have to drain and replace the oil and you'll have to check and clean the air filters. Every 2-3 years, you'll have to replace the spark plugs. You'll have to drain the gasoline from the generator before storing it for winter. You'll also have to pay attention to how long gas has been sitting in the generator as it begins to gum up the carburetor after a few months.
The only risk in an RPOD would be the air conditioner. The compressor is sensitive to undervolts (brownouts) and, if your generator is also powering the microwave or a teapot or a toaster while the air conditioner is trying to cycle on, there's an outside chance of damage. I suggest turning off the A/C while making tea & toast. Hair dryers, curling irons, coffee pots and most any other heat-producing electrical appliance are also on the 'turn off the A/C before using' list. |
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techntrek ![]() Admin Group - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9062 |
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There is also an actual inverter, which runs from a 12 volt, 24 volt or 48 volt battery bank and outputs either 120 volts AC or 240 volts AC. These usually aren't suited to running high-amp loads like A/Cs or microwaves unless you have a very large battery bank (as one example, I have a 6000 watt inverter at home attached to 16 12 volt batteries and I can run most things in my house from it - obviously not practical at all for an RV). These can be used in place of a generator (or inverter/generator) for small loads, such as running CFL or LED lights, charging your cell phone or laptop, etc. When we dry camp we'll run our 300 watt inverter for our phones and laptops.
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Hodge-PODge ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Apr 2011 Location: Calhoun, GA Online Status: Offline Posts: 539 |
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Outbound, you explained that so well, I think YOU would make a pretty good teacher. I actually understood at a basic level what you were talking about!
Techntrek, I appreciate your additional info. Thanks, guys!
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TravelingTeacher ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Apr 2011 Location: Calhoun, GA Online Status: Offline Posts: 16 |
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Outbound and techntrek, you told me everything I need to know. Well, for now anyway -
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jim park ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 04 Apr 2011 Location: brownsville tx Online Status: Offline Posts: 40 |
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just installed the hard start capacitor and it runs my a/c like a champ in 94 degree heat.it runs my a/c at 68 degrees for about seven hours and 5 minutes on 1.1 gallons of gas.much better than buying a second generator. thanks for the tip outbound.
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jim park ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 04 Apr 2011 Location: brownsville tx Online Status: Offline Posts: 40 |
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just installed the hard start capacitor and it runs my a/c like a champ in 94 degree heat.it runs my a/c at 68 degrees for about seven hours and 5 minutes on 1.1 gallons of gas.much better than buying a second generator. thanks for the tip outbound. ps i talked to a local dealer and they refused to install it.
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