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Tire Replacement - Event Date: 05 Apr 2021

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    Posted: 11 Oct 2021 at 7:24pm
Originally posted by lostagain




Though brands are no guarantee of quality or the lack of manufacturing defects, one can reasonably say that brands like Carlisle and Goodyear have reputations to protect and don't want to risk losing it by putting out inferior products.  Especially in this time of social media, reputations can be destroyed almost at the speed of light. 

It is just as likely that the incumbent brand is resting on it's laurels milking it's brand name for short term profitability while the newer market entrant has to have better quality in order to build market share. That has happened many times as CEOs have become more and more focused on next quarter's. stock price.

So personally I generally ignore brand. If there is data (specs, reliability stats, customer reviews) supporting one product over another I will pay attention to that. Overall I think I'm way ahead in the benefit to cost ratio even though I've had to replace something now and then that didn't work out. Tires have not been one of those.

As I said, it is a personal choice, if you want to buy by brand that's totally fine with me.




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Originally posted by Welchsoft

My axle rating is 4400 pounds and the dry weight (measured when it came off the manufacturing floor) is 3594 pounds.  I've been searching like crazy and haven't found any one tire that owners have put many miles on and can recommend other than the GY Endurance.  I'm just kind of tired of searching and want to get the Castle Rocks off before I travel cross country.  Suggestions?

As I have mentioned numerous times here, been very happy with these OEM tires on the HRE R-Pod 195:

Westlake ST235/75R15 Radial Off-Road Trailer Tire - Load Range D


https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Tires-and-Wheels/Westlake/WST54FR.html

13k miles and going strong.  Run at 65 psi/max 65 mph, not overloaded.  Not cheap, but, as usual, you tend to get what you pay for.
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So how does one know which tire is better in terms of rubber compounding, quality of manufacturing and other components, tread design for optimum anti-hydroplaning, etc.? 

When I look at a tire for my car, truck or trailer, they all look pretty much the same to me except for the obvious tread pattern differences and the tread wear and weight/speed ratings.  I don't have a clue wether these round black doughnut shaped objects are good or bad.  The fact is some tires do not last nearly as long as others and are more prone to failure.  

Though brands are no guarantee of quality or the lack of manufacturing defects, one can reasonably say that brands like Carlisle and Goodyear have reputations to protect and don't want to risk losing it by putting out inferior products.  Especially in this time of social media, reputations can be destroyed almost at the speed of light. 
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Originally posted by Welchsoft

My axle rating is 4400 pounds and the dry weight (measured when it came off the manufacturing floor) is 3594 pounds.  I've been searching like crazy and haven't found any one tire that owners have put many miles on and can recommend other than the GY Endurance.  I'm just kind of tired of searching and want to get the Castle Rocks off before I travel cross country.  Suggestions?


Forget the dry weight, use the 4400 lb (2200 per wheel) and get tires that are rated between 1.25 and 1.5 of that (2750 and 3300 lbs) or thereabouts, Probably that will be a D or E but go by the load rating not the letter

In my opinion brand is a distant second and a personal choice, I personally don't pay a nickel for one brand over another unless there is a clear technical difference between the two options.
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I had Carlisle Radial HD load range "D" installed and speed balanced on my 177 this spring.  First time going to a D rated (had C on my two previous sets with no problems) and have noticed a huge difference in towing as well as minimal bounce and tire flex over rough and gravel roads.  Very pleased with them thus far.
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My axle rating is 4400 pounds and the dry weight (measured when it came off the manufacturing floor) is 3594 pounds.  I've been searching like crazy and haven't found any one tire that owners have put many miles on and can recommend other than the GY Endurance.  I'm just kind of tired of searching and want to get the Castle Rocks off before I travel cross country.  Suggestions?
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Originally posted by Welchsoft

Yes makes perfect sense.  They what US made tires might meet that criteria?  The Endurance are load range E.


The letter ratings don't tell you how much weight the tire will actually carry. 14 inch and 15 inch tires can both have the same load rating but carry different loads for example. The manufacturer should provide a load table for that.

It's possible to have too high a
load rating too, which results in
an overly stiff ride which can shake your trailer to pieces. I wouldn't go above around 150% of axle rating for the two tires combined. So that's gives you a range of 125% to 150% or so to pick from.

Proper inflation is also key. ST tires have thick stiff sidewalls which won't reject heat well if they are underinflated and flex too much. There is no good reason not to inflate ST tires to their rated pressure (cold) and keep them there. Get a TPS or check them during the day. I use an IR thermometer and check the tire temps at every fuel stop. Only takes a few seconds, and I can look for overheated bearings and brakes too.

As for US made tires with the right load ratings, all of the mfgs should have a load table available you can look at.

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My 2021 R-pod 171 has Castle Rock ST225/75R15’s Load range D rated 2540 lbs per tire with a 75 mph speed rating. More than adequate load and speed rating for my use. Have 2000 miles on it since we purchased it in January. Have been watching them closely given the comments on the internet. 

 I have had several vehicle tire surprises over the years - 5 year old Michelin LT tires dry rotted - thankfully died while parked and not at speed. Another vehicle at the 7 year mark had two TPS valve stem sensors fail on tires that were a year old. The TPS sensors failed two weeks a part. Both times caused sudden tire deflation at 65 mph. I immediately replaced the remaining TPS sensors after the second failed. Lesson learned - replace TPS sensors when replacing tires. 

At last outing, neighbor pulled in with his late model F250 with rear fender all damaged. Tire exploded on the highway on his way to the campground. Didn’t think to ask what tire brand.

Not sure what is a “good” tire any more. I agree with having extra speed and weight margin on the tire. And seriously consider changing tires around the 5 year mark due to age. I am a believer in doing a visual tire inspection before heading out with my TT no matter what brand of tires.
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Yes makes perfect sense.  They what US made tires might meet that criteria?  The Endurance are load range E.
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it's more important to get tires with load ratings well over minimum requirents than tk get a particular brand. The OEM tires are marginal at best because FR saves every penny. I recommend getting tires with a load rating at least 25% higher than 1/2 the axle rating. I run Chinese tires and have been very happy with them.
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