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lostagain ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2595 |
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Last time I was in Edmonton, a Feb. about 10 or so years ago, it never made it to 0℉. It was especially entertaining watching cars trying to go up a moderately steep hill and slide back down to the bottom to try once more. I think I'd rather winter in Vancouver or Victoria.
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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
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marwayne ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Oct 2011 Location: Edmonton AB Can Online Status: Offline Posts: 1003 |
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It's been cool and wet.
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If you want something done right, do it yourself.
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lostagain ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2595 |
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Marwayne, that sounds like our weather here in NV last week. 23℃ in the afternoon and down to near 0℃ at dawn.
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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
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marwayne ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Oct 2011 Location: Edmonton AB Can Online Status: Offline Posts: 1003 |
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Jato, Cleaned up the fridge outside and turned it on, went from 23* C to 6* C in about 4 hours on LP
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offgrid ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
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Haven't seen such a chart either, probably because an RV absorption fridge is a a pretty complex device thermodynamically. Check out this slide presentation:
If you go to around slides 17-20 you can see that the COP of an absorption fridge is related to three temps (To-condenser/absorber), Te -evaporator, and Tg -generator). I didn't run the numbers, but since To (essentially the ambient temp) is showing up twice, in the denominator in one case and subtracted in the numerator in another) COP is going to fall off quickly with higher ambient temps. And if COP drops cooling capacity drops along with it. To run the numbers you would need Tg, essentially the hot air from the propane flame or electric element. I found one reference for that which is around 350F. Note that you would need to do this calc in degrees above absolute zero (Rankine or Kelvin degrees), not in F or C. The reference with the Tg of 350 was this, which is an interesting discussion of what causes damage to RV fridges and how to prevent it. |
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6417 |
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I can't find a chart to show the relationship between ambient temperature and refrigerator temperatures for absorption refrigerators. At this point, I would blow out the LP line and see if it makes a difference. On our recent trip to the coast, we were maintaining temps in the 30's in ambient temperatures in the high 80's while set to 4 bars.
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jato ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3325 |
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That is most impressive marwayne, like everything else you do on your R-Pod! My temp has not changed inside the fridge although outside it is up to 94. I have the fridge side facing north so the sun only hits it until 10:30 so now it will reside in shade the rest of the day.
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God's pod
'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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marwayne ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Oct 2011 Location: Edmonton AB Can Online Status: Offline Posts: 1003 |
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If you want something done right, do it yourself.
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jato ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3325 |
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Here we sit with fridge running on propane for 19 hours. Setting is on 4 of 5 dots, 5 being the coldest. Temp has stabilized at 41 degrees, not near as cold as when I was on electric where it went down to 36. However the fridge side is sitting in the sun and current ambient temp outside is 92 and I also checked inside the freezer and it was able to make ice overnight during the past 14 hours. So what temps do you all have when running propane? Is 41 acceptable or do you think this is on its way out because it is nearly a 10 year old unit? The only thing I have left to do is to take off the supply line from the regulator to the fridge and see if there is any oil or residue to blow out. |
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God's pod
'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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jato ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3325 |
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So the report is in! Fridge running on shore power with battery running the 2 muffin fans. Temp dropped just under 3.5 degrees/hour. Fridge running on shore power with battery running the same fans. Temp has dropped degrees/hour. Started running at 3 pm with interior temp in fridge 92 while outside temp was 94. At 9 pm temp has dropped to 67 degrees in refer or 4.16 degrees/hour with outside temp at 78. HOPEFULLY by morning things will all be well. Took angled cap off stack and removed spiral inset out - no need to clean - appeared nearly brand new. Tapped on chimney stack - nothing came out. Removed the combustion chamber with a 7/16 and 1/2 inch wrench. Tried to tap the orifice out - no luck so i used a product called "Citrol" by Schaeffer's and soaked it for a couple minutes and blew out with compressed air. Blew out combustion area as well as orifice both directions and also the area where the flame comes out of combustion area - appears like a 1/8" diameter bullseye surrounded by several much smaller holes. Blew out some crud but not much. Will see in the morning if I have a similar temp as the electric gave. If not, I will remove the propane hose and blow out with compressed air to see if any oil comes out. Thank you mcarter, offgrid, and Stephen H. This is what makes this forum so great, having a bunch of well learned individuals who willingly help those like me who haven't arrived there yet.
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God's pod
'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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