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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6417 |
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What about a link for an "1800 Rpm Brushless Genends?" I've seen the Predator 3500 in action. It is very, very quiet, much more so than the Generac iX2000 I have now.
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crankster78 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 08 May 2018 Location: Minn Online Status: Offline Posts: 163 |
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Greetings I have just come back from dry camping for over a week with about 800 other campers. I have a Honda 2000 watt inverter generator that I bought in 2005. It has over 1500+ hours on it and all I have done is change oil, and install 1 new spark plug. The inverter produces a pure sine wave instead of square wave like the cheap gens. do. It is quiet which is a big plus when you are surrounded by other folks camping. I would never use a non inverter generator for camping. The converter in your camper does nothing to change the AC wave form. The Champion, Generac, Briggs and Straton invertors are good and less expensive, but you get what you pay for. Yamaha has a very good unit. I am a Ham radio operator and use the generator for that also. Ham radios like all electronics require clean power. Please be considerate of your fellow campers when buying a generator. Crankster78 2015 R-179
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offgrid ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
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I second the vote for a high quality inverter generator. I can and do run my air conditioner and microwave (not at the same time) on my Honda 2000. The new 2200 would be even better.
An Easy Start was required for the air conditioner so that it could start on the little Honda. After that no problem. You can also convert these gennys to dual fuel so that you can run on propane. Clean and no gasoline stink, but it will cost substantially more to operate that way.
One note, the inverter generators are not particularly quiet or efficient when run near full load, what makes them quiet and efficient is being able to operate at low rpm under light load. The inverter section does this by maintaining 60Hz AC output with variable engine rpm. Conventional small generators run at 3600 rpm continuously to provide 60Hz output. But even when running the air conditioner you get the noise and efficiency when the compressor has cycled off, when the load is just the evaporator fan at I think a couple of hundred watts. |
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krusehead ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 28 Dec 2018 Location: CO Online Status: Offline Posts: 1 |
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Because of a favorable Consumer Reports review and a great price, I bought a Westinghouse iGen2500 portable generator this past summer. It's quiet, seems well built and works fine. We live in Colorado and I subsequently ordered the high altitude carburetor kit from Westinghouse. While the generator seems good, my experience with Westinghouse customer service in trying to get a couple of simple issues resolved pertaining to the high altitude kit was simply the worst. Like, beyond comprehension terrible. My advice: If you think you might need to deal with customer service, don't buy Westinghouse. Short Summary: Westinghouse sent me
the kit with no installation instructions. I could find no
instructions on the Westinghouse website. I sent 7 emails and
made 6 phone calls to Westinghouse (and in response received 7 emails and 1
phone call from Westinghouse) before I received the installation instructions. 3 of my 7 emails were not responded to.
Long Summary: 1. I received the high
altitude kit, but it came with no instructions. 2. I went to the
Westinghouse website but could find no instructions there. 3. I emailed a query
to customer service, but received no response (this was mid-October). 4. 10/23 I called
customer service and explained that my email had not been responded to. I recapped that I had no installation
instructions for the kit. They couldn't help but said they would refer
the question to the tech dept. 5. 10/24 I received an
email from Engineering saying he didn't understand the question. 6. 10/24 I emailed
back asking for installation instructions and asked the minimum safe altitude
at which the unit could be run. 7. 10/25 I received an
email telling me that there are installation instructions and that the jet must
be changed if the unit is returned to sea level. No installation
instructions were provided. 8. 10/26 I emailed
back asking where I could get the instructions and reiterated the question
about minimum safe operating elevation. I received no response. 9. 10/31 I
called customer service and asked for this to be escalated to management.
The person said he would send me a link to the instructions and that there was
no problem running the unit at sea level with the kit installed; it would just
make less power. 10. 10/31 I received an email with installation instructions. 11. We were out of the country for most of
November. Upon returning I saw that the instructions provided were not
for my model. The instructions stated that the original jet must be
re-installed if the unit is to be operated at an elevation under 2,000
ft. On 12/04 I emailed Engineering and explained that I received the
wrong instructions and asked for the correct ones. I received no response. 12. 12/06 I called customer service and asked for
instructions for my model. Dan said he would check and get back to me. 13. 12/06 Dan called back. Although he said the installation
instructions for all the iGen’s would be the same, he said he would send me the
correct instructions for my model. 14. 12/06 Dan emailed
me a response that referenced included instructions but there were none in the
email. 15. 12/08 I installed
the kit (without instructions). The kit included three jet options--A, B,
and C. I guessed that Kit B would be the right one for 5,000 ft. of
elevation. The procedures in the instructions I received on 10/31 were of
no help; my model generator is quite different from the instructions. 16. 12/11 I emailed Dan that I did not receive the
instructions with his previous email. I said
I also needed clarification of the minimum safe operating
elevation with the kit installed because I had received three different
answers. The first (verbal) was sea level. The second (verbal) was
that there is no minimum--it would operate fine at sea level, although with
slightly reduced output. The third (written) was 2,000 ft., although that
was in the instructions for generators other than the iGen that I have so I
don't know for certain if it applies. In the same email I
included the summary of my efforts to acquire instructions and install the kit
(numbers 1-15 above) and asked that my summary be forwarded to Westinghouse
management. I concluded by stating: “My experience with
Westinghouse has been terrible beyond belief, starting with purchasing a kit
that came with no instructions, continuing through emails that were not
responded to, and phone calls and emails that often provided no- or incorrect
information. After all these emails and calls, I still have no instructions for
installing the kit.” 17. 12/11 Dan emailed me and apologized that
there was no link to the instructions in the 12/06 email he sent me, but he did
not provide the instructions. He did not
clarify the minimum safe elevation at which the generator can be operated with
the kit installed. 18. 12/11 Dan sent a second email that day that
included the link to the instructions. 19. 12/13 I emailed Dan that the kit instructions
he provided were the same (incorrect) ones sent to me 10/31. I explained in detail how the instructions
provided did not apply to my model generator. 20. 12/13 Dan emailed and said that they had
found the problem that resulted in my getting the wrong instructions and sent
me a link to the correct ones. 21. 12/14 I sent an email to Dan confirming that
I received the correct instructions.
Notes: After twice asking
for my experience to be shared with Westinghouse management, they did not reach
out to me. I never received
clarification as to the minimum safe operating elevation with the kit
installed. The instructions for my
generator say the original main jet must be installed for operation at less
than 2,000 ft., so I am assuming that engine damage can occur without the original
jet. |
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crankster78 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 08 May 2018 Location: Minn Online Status: Offline Posts: 163 |
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Greetings I have a 2000 Honda inverter. I'm in ham radio and also use it for field day. I have at least 2000 to 3000 hours on it and it's 12 years old. For electronics, inverters are the best for a pure sine wave needed. It only runs as fast as the load requires, so is very quiet in operation. Several other companies now make inverter style generators, which should work well. I dry camp at some large events. If I end up with someone with a cheap generator nearby, I will move to another location. When you buy a generator, think of your neighbors. Hondas are known for being reliable and long lived. You get what you pay for. Happy New Year and safe rv'ing Crankster78 r-179
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Shane ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Sep 2018 Location: Northern IL. Online Status: Offline Posts: 98 |
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I am looking at the Honda EU 7000, is this worth spending a lot of money on. Most will be used for the RV trips, but I will use it at the house also.
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GlueGuy ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2702 |
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However, if you're planning on using it at home, it might be a good choice. Personally, I wouldn't want to be dragging a ~~ 260 lb generator around when I'm camping.
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Woody.1 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 16 Feb 2018 Location: SW Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 31 |
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Well I went with the Westinghouse iGen 4500. Have 10 hours on it is all and I like it so far. It has remote start, which I guess will come in handy. Got it off Amazon for right around a $1000.00. And here’s what I did when I purchased it off of Amazon, which has nothing to do with the generator itself. Our grocery (city market/King Soopers) store has a gas station and not all do, but they had 4 times fuel points when you buy a gift card. I bought 10 - $100.00 Amazon gift cards with my points credit card, loaded the Amazon gift cards, purchased the generator and got $1.00 off per gallon for a few fill ups because of the 4 times fuel points and received points on my credit card.
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6417 |
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After our most recent trip, I now feel that I can recommend the Firman dual-fuel generators. The link is for an upgraded model of the one we bought through Costco.
While not the quietest generator, it is quieter than many. It has sufficient power to run the AC and to charge the battery/batteries simultaneously. Being able to run on propane is a big plus as it runs cleaner and one does not have to worry about stale gasoline, ethanol, needing fuel stabilizer, spillage, storage of stinky gas containers, etc. Electric start is a big plus. One can pay much more for an equivalent generator, but I don't know if one will get a better one in this price range. |
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