Sealing/caulking awning and spoiler |
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Tibof
Senior Member Joined: 19 Sep 2017 Location: North Idaho Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
Topic: Sealing/caulking awning and spoiler Posted: 22 May 2018 at 11:23pm |
I considered that Glue Guy but decided against it. I worry *probably unnecessarily, about vacuum pulling water in. As for the old screw holes, they are very well filled with glued dowel and then covered with 4200, which will adhere very well to the roof itself. But if all fails, I am going to make a 1/8 inch thick aluminum frame for the inner perimeter footprint of the spoiler and bond it to the roof (which 3m 5200 will do very well). Then mount the spoiler on that. There remains the issue of sealing the spoiler to that however. The proper material for mounting an item like the spoiler is butyl tape. But the material and design of the spoiler does not permit that. No RV should have this issue. Given the OEM mounting of the spoilers, they will inevitably leak, for the only water seal is the Dicor type material around the outer edge.
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2015 Pod Hood River Edition
2012 Tacoma Crew Cab 4 Liter |
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6297 |
Posted: 23 May 2018 at 1:47am |
The spoiler itself can leak as long as the screws are sealed, the wires are well sealed where they penetrate the roof, and there is at least one weep hole to let out any water that does get in. Making sure the wires are sealed is the critical item.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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GlueGuy
Senior Member Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2631 |
Posted: 23 May 2018 at 8:43am |
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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost |
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Tibof
Senior Member Joined: 19 Sep 2017 Location: North Idaho Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
Posted: 23 May 2018 at 1:02pm |
If the wiring is sealed, the only access for water into the Pod are the screw holes. In the OEM set up, the screw holes will leak for sure if water gets in (I believe regardless of weep holes), for nothing seals them. And some were actually doubled leaving an empty hole in manufacture. I believe that I have the screw holes sealed very well, as well as the screw heads. We shall see. In any case, the OEM set up is ............(kind words fail me). Repair and maintenance is one thing that an RV owner expects. But addressing a design flaw is another matter altogether. BTW, I have finally learned that the 3M 4200 I used does function as an adhesive/sealant on LDPE plastics, just at a lower shear rate than other materials. Shear rate is 20#/square inch on the LDPE and much higher on the filon roofing. So that is more than sufficient for my purposes. Oh, and more research and talking informs me that the spoiler leakage is a well known issue. There is a fix, but it would cost about $10 in the mfg. process. Also, it is known that the folks on the assembly line torque the screws so much that it makes for eventual bulges in the age of the spoiler, thereby pulling the spoiler and its sealant away from the roof. The existing design "makes leaking inevitable."
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2015 Pod Hood River Edition
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riotkayak284
Senior Member Joined: 29 Apr 2016 Location: Nashville, TN Online Status: Offline Posts: 162 |
Posted: 18 Jun 2018 at 12:23pm |
+1 on the Eternabond... fixed mine and very easy.
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bigcat
Groupie Joined: 25 Aug 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 51 |
Posted: 15 Aug 2018 at 2:45pm |
Hey there, has anyone used the EternaClean cleaner for cleaning and prep prior to applying the Eternabond tape? Just curious if it's safe for the Pod's roof surface. Also, I've read on other RV maintenance blogs that you don't have to remove the factory installed sealant around the other roof fixtures because the Eternabond will adhere to it just fine. Is that true? It seems like it would be a bugger to remove the factory sealant.
Thanks!
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Big Cat
2017 179 |
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furpod
Moderator Group - pHp Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Location: Central KY Online Status: Offline Posts: 6128 |
Posted: 15 Aug 2018 at 2:57pm |
Dicor is pretty easy to peel up. I used a 1" plastic putty knife. Yes, if the Eternabond is wide enough, you could just cover the Dicor. My OCD wouldn't allow it. LOL
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bigcat
Groupie Joined: 25 Aug 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 51 |
Posted: 15 Aug 2018 at 3:03pm |
Thanks for the quick reply, furpod!
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mcarter
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Location: Greenbrier, TN Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419 |
Posted: 15 Aug 2018 at 4:37pm |
When I went with eternabond I also purchased the cleaner and primer. The dicor removes easily with minimal scraping, if you decide to do that. It's my winter project when I can put Pod away in building.
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Mike Carter
2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
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wooleeman
Groupie Joined: 01 Sep 2017 Location: Southeastern PA Online Status: Offline Posts: 80 |
Posted: 15 Aug 2018 at 7:47pm |
I attributed the leak to my spoiler. Covered the mounting screws (front and sides) with Eternabond and have not seen a drop of water through all of this rain that we have had in the east.
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2016 RP-179 (Sold 9/2020) 2014 Silverado Crew Cab. 6-1/2' Bed Golden Retriever (DOB 6/16/2020) English Bulldog (RIP 6/15/2020) |
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