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Tibof ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 19 Sep 2017 Location: North Idaho Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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Thanks much Stephen. Forest River now informs me the the function of the foam is only to seal the screws! Really poor design. I am going to remove the foam and use something like butyl or Dicor to bed the spoiler. Screw holes are now identified and can easily be sealed in advance of running in the screws.
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6456 |
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I ran a bead and set the foam on that, then made sure the edge was sealed.
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StephenH
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Tibof ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 19 Sep 2017 Location: North Idaho Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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So you ran a Dicor bead over the foam? I am wondering what to do with the foam.
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6456 |
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I didn't remove the foam. The hardest part was cleaning off the old Dicor sealant.
It lasted well until it had to go to the factory for the accident repair. The roof was replaced as was the spoiler. I haven't gotten around to getting on the roof to check this spring. |
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Tibof ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 19 Sep 2017 Location: North Idaho Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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Stephen, I finally ran across the 9/16 post of your spoiler repair. First, has it lasted well. Second, you mention running a bead of Dicor non-self leveling sealant before installing the spoiler, making sure to cover the screw holes. Did you first remove the foam tape? I have reached the tentative conclusion the foam tape may be to prevent air from entering and lifting the spoiler, for it certainly does not prevent water from entering. My present inclination, while waiting for suitable weather, is to remove the foam tape and bed the spoiler in either the Dicor or a butyl viscous calk, or round butyl ribbon bedding tape (3/16", as the spoiler lip is 1/8" deep). It would be good to learn from someone who has addressed this successfully, for a re-do is a lot of work.
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lgblau ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 09 Feb 2018 Location: Arizona Online Status: Offline Posts: 140 |
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Sorry Tibof...I got my posts mixed up, and put my mouth in motion before putting my mind in gear.
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Tibof ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 19 Sep 2017 Location: North Idaho Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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I have just been informed by FR that the foam tape is butyl. Either this is something entirely new to me or FR is playing games. The exposed surface of the tape is just like the stuff you would put around a door to keep out the draft. There is no adhesive to it, except on the one attaching side. Moreover, it is applied in such a sloppy manner that it has seams that do not seal against one another, My difficulty now is whether to use it as FR recommends (screw down and caulk around) or remove it and replace it with real butyl tape or viscous butyl caulk. The only problem with real butyl tape is the spoiler is not rigid enough and the screws don't get enough bite to properly compress it. But the caulk might work. Insights? Igblau, black metal trim? Its just the plastic spoiler. Then the foam tape under the edge.
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lgblau ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 09 Feb 2018 Location: Arizona Online Status: Offline Posts: 140 |
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Hi.....Are you saying that thereis a foam strip under the black metal trim. I tried, using longer screws, to close the gap at the forward edge of my M179, but still could not close it completely.
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6456 |
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I agree. The foam tape is the problem. Without that, there would not be the pushing up between the screws.
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StephenH
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Tibof ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 19 Sep 2017 Location: North Idaho Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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New spoiler arrived today. Around the base at the edge is an applied spongy foam insulation type tape, about half an inch or so wide and 3/16 to 1/4 thick. It has obvious joints in it that are not mated so as to seal. The surface of the tape is just the foam, no adhesive. The foam tape seems to have no function with respect to sealing. It's just a cushion. FR seems to say (I am seeking clarification) just screw it down and caulk around it. IMHO, it would be better to remove the foam tape and bed the spoiler in windshield type butyl caulk. Then caulk around it. Unless I am really missing something, this is a real design flaw. I believe the spoiler can be sealed (if that is even necessary), but not with the foam tape in place.
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