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GlueGuy ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2718 |
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In the final analysis, the spoiler needs to not leak. AFAIK, the only opening(s) are the opening for the lights, and the screw holes. Otherwise, letting water/rain just run through should theoretically be OK.
So rather than attempting to seal up the spoiler, it might just be simpler to fill the wiring hole with a good sealant, and perhaps put a dab of sealant on each screw hole, and maybe changing the screws to stainless. Then if your sense of airflow is offended, maybe put some of that tape across the leading edge. I'm not meaning this to offend anyone, but am I missing something here? |
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2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost |
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Tibof ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 19 Sep 2017 Location: North Idaho Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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Stephen, read carefully. Aside from this matter having nothing to do with weight, refrigerator size, or air conditioner noise, nowhere have I suggested that FR should fix "something they don't regard as broken,"or cover it under warranty. In all of your comments, you have virtually no idea what I have asked FR to do. Earlier in this thread I outlined my likely approach to a DIY repair, a portion of which seems to have found its way back to me in your recommendation. In fact, you seemed somewhat baffled as to how to effect a repair on your own spoiler. If the front side edge is not a major issue, then it would probably not need the aluminum reinforcement strip you were considering. My participation here has nothing to do with anger. Rather, it began in an honest attempt to determine the best way to repair what the dealer himself conveyed to FR as "the notorious spoiler leak problem," for even the dealer did not present to me a recommendation.
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6456 |
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It isn't a "love it or leave it" proposition. It is being realistic about expecting FR to fix something they don't view as broken under warranty, especially since the warranty is long expired. I could have submitted items for warranty work, but the distance I would have had to tow our RP179 to the dealer would have carried costs far above the cost of fixing it myself. Do I think the R-Pod is perfect? Far from it. It has its share of problems. However, I prefer not to dwell on the problems, but fix them if I can so I can get out there and enjoy it.
The spoiler's front side warping is not what I consider a major issue. Some non-sag lap sealant or Eternabond tape would fix that quickly and easily so why continue to harp on that same string? Fix it and get out there and enjoy your R-Pod. The leakage issue some experienced with the spoiler had to do with the wires not being sealed where they go through the roof to the lights. When I took mine off, the wires were well sealed with black silicone RTV sealant so no water could penetrate there even though the edge of the spoiler had lifted. It is also a good idea to have an area on the back side unsealed to allow any water that does get under there to escape. The one issue I did have was not that the edge had lifted which was easily fixed with non-sag lap sealant, but that the screws weren't sealed and when I removed them, I noticed rust on the screws. That also was easily fixed by sealing them when I reinstalled the spoiler. If you are concerned with the possibility of it leaking, remove the spoiler, clean it and the roof and reinstall it with fresh sealant. Removing is not difficult. After scraping off as much as the old sealant as you can, mineral spirits will remove the remainder without damaging the gel-coat or the plastic spoiler. Check to see that the wires are adequately sealed, then just reinstall the spoiler with fresh sealant. It isn't difficult. It does not take a lot of time or effort. It beats getting angry with FR for not fixing something that they do not view as defective. |
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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Tibof ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 19 Sep 2017 Location: North Idaho Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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"podders Helping podders" Thanks for your help Leo. And thanks for yours, too, Keith — though the issue I've raised does not seem to have much to do with the likes of refrigerator size or air conditioner noise. In fact, it's only about a defective spoiler, not the entire Pod failing to float my boat. I appreciate the advice that you give, also, Stephen; a sort of "R-Pod, love it or leave it " proposition. I genuinely hope that you get your spoiler sealed before interior damage occurs. As for Jato's advice, I am very familiar with that course of action and am especially good at it. But I consider myself duly chastised for imagining that FR should put some skin in the game. With respect to life being too short, I might qualify as being abundantly familiar with the truth of that proposition.
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Leo B ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() Joined: 13 Jan 2012 Location: Lyndonville, VT Online Status: Offline Posts: 4518 |
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+ 2 Life is to short to short to not be enjoying what you are doing!
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Leo & Melissa Bachand
2017 Ford F150 2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk Previously owned 2015 Rpod 179 2010 Rpod 171 |
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jato ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3365 |
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+1 to StephenH. 2 years ago a friend of ours purchased a 5th wheel 45' long, triple axle, 6 slides, and 19,500 lb dry weight. It was not a cheap rig. Has he had problems? Yes. Some were covered by warranty and some he had to take care of himself.
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God's pod
'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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Keith-N-Dar ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Location: Mayville, WI Online Status: Offline Posts: 1447 |
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There actually have been several. One who was bitterly disappointed in the refrigerator's size, one who hated the air conditioner's noise and one who hated nearly everything but had never had is pod out camping. There are lots of RVs out there. If the Pod doesn't float your boat that is fine. Life is far to short to have things that should be fun annoy you. Find the one you like and use the heck out of it! |
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Keith-N-Dar
Boris & Betty (Boston Terriers) 2011 R-Pod 177 2010 Ford F-150 |
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6456 |
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Tibof, this seems to be a BIG DEAL for you, but not for most buyers of R-Pods. Just seal it yourself and go camping and enjoy your R-Pod or sell it and get something more to your liking.
One time before, there was a person who had bought an R-Pod and then came here and complained, complained, complained about FR quality. He sold it and bought a much larger camping trailer. I for one was glad he got something he wanted and stopped complaining in the forum about little things he could have done something about himself. Perhaps it is time for you to consider doing likewise. |
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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Tibof ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 19 Sep 2017 Location: North Idaho Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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Of course. Not only is it a safety issue but one that could result in a law suit. But it is a defect taken care of beyond warranty. Why not invoke the warranty provisions on the studs? It's obvious. In fact, the spoiler is there because of lighting requirements imposed by the NHTSB. FR sought to be exempt but was denied. That. too, was a safety issue.
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marwayne ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Oct 2011 Location: Edmonton AB Can Online Status: Offline Posts: 1004 |
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If you want something done right, do it yourself.
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