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Well, in my past life (work) I used a lot of computer programs in various disciplines and the old saying of garbage in garbage out is very true. I'm definitely not saying the Flow Illustrator program is garbage because it is not. I was quite impressed with the out put from it. I'm only saying it would be difficult to obtain any quantitative information not knowing the total input information and the conditions under which the model is subjected. i too am impressed with the improvement in data processing that has occurred since I first processed "data" by hand and with a hand held calculator which believe it or not was not allowed in any of my college classrooms. Ah, the "good ol' days". Yeah right
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I also did a series of Flow Illustrator runs for a combo-shaped trailer with a 'rectangular' front and a R-Pod rear end using both my Jeep Liberty silhouette and the Ford Pickup...the weird shape didn't really change anything. I am a hydrodynamist by profession and Flow Illustrator doesn't do very
badly compared with some of my very expensive software. I am always amazed with some of the 'free' software that is available on the Internet versus some of the 'professional' software that costs me up into five figures! As you stated...the real world is the final word. I also use ScanGauge II and wouldn't travel without it. It uses the electronic sensors all new vehicles have. It has more than paid for itself by giving me the fault codes so I know what is wrong with my vehicle before I bring it in to a mechanic. I watch my miles per gallon, and adjust my speed accordingly. The SGII can also be moved from one vehicle to another by simply plugging it into a under dash socket. |
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Yeah, I suppose there was some value there.
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But they did make a really nice spot to put the company logo.
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The following is just my opinion. The pictures and "airflow analysis" are a nice visualization of one set of conditions with the model presented and the boundrary conditions in the program. The author of the program warns that the results are "not " a scientific result and should be considered a work of art and not a scientific result. Now, that is not to say the results don't have worth , they do and can provide some 2 dimensional visualization of air flow across the various vehicles and r-pods. I have enjoyed seeing the contributions and look forward to making my own when I get my Pod. You should not put to much credence in the results you see as far as making a judgment of gas mileage etc. First of all I don't think the program allows input of vehicle speed etc to set the criteria under which the airflow takes place. I have purchased a devise called a "scan gauge", which will give me instantaneous gas mileage, transmission temperature, alternator output, and several other readings and plan to use the hard data I get from the gauge readouts to improve my driving habits to improve gas mileage. Maybe somewhere down the road, I may fool around with spoilers etc but for now I just plan on enjoying the R-Pod as much as I can when I receive it. Bottom line is to go enjoy your r-pod and don't worry too much about the gas mileage. Remember back a few years when all the big rigs had huge spoilers mounted on the tractors ? How many do you see today ? I don't think they helped as much as the people selling them said they did. |
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Well I guess I'm all kinds non efficient airflow. Not only do I have a smaller truck, small cab, open bed and now I have a trike rack in truck bed to cause more problems.
I'm going to take some good side and front pictures (for editing) on my next trip. I'd really like to see a deflector on the cab, will i lose some of the turbulence in the truck bed? Now the big question? What does all this tell us? What is the gain the MPG as we correct the airflow? In the Deflector thread, http://www.rpodnation.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=587&KW=deflector&title=deflect-or-not-to-deflect-is-the-question there didn't seem to be a big gain in MPG. Just wondering? Lee ![]() |
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Ah, I missed that first time around.
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see Outbound's airflow run on first page
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Has anyone tried adding a deflector to the back of the 'pod? I'm thinking at a 45 degree angle, mounted above the rear window. That should even out the airflow back there.
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Here is a flow image of an 18ft rectangular travel trailer. The flow is extremely smooth over the truck and trailer roof. But there is a huge roller being dragged behind. It would be nice to know the drag coefficient of an R-Pod versus a rectangular travel trailer.
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