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Seanl ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Sep 2011 Location: Fredericton NB Online Status: Offline Posts: 633 |
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I originally planned on doing something similar to what you have done but in the end I just installed dedicated receptacles.
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Sean, 2011 Rpod RP-173,2009 Jeep Liberty Rocky Mountain Edition
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techntrek ![]() Admin Group - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9062 |
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You've hit on what I was getting to.
![]() Edit: something else I thought of last night after signing off, in your current configuration you are backfeeding AC power into your inverter when the pod is plugged in which could "let the smoke out". Once that smoke escapes the inverter it is only good for a book end. Another reason to use a transfer switch or keep its output separate from the rest of the pod.
Oh, and by feeding the pod's wiring you will probably also be feeding the converter, which will then attempt to recharge the battery that you are actively trying to discharge with the inverter. That just ends up being a loss of energy for no good reason. Plus the converter will feed 12 volts to the lights, fridge brains, etc. instead of allowing them to be directly fed from the battery... another unnecessary loss. Personally I would wire an inverter to a separate outlet and be done with it. Let the 12 volt system draw from the battery directly, keeping the fridge in propane mode, and then just plugging in my cell phone, laptop, etc directly into that dedicated outlet.
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CharlieM ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797 |
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Yes. Fried lineman has a really bad smell
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Charlie
Northern Colorado OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD |
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Keith-N-Dar ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Location: Mayville, WI Online Status: Offline Posts: 1447 |
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Thanks Sean. That is what I was thinking but didn't say it well. Like a transfer switch for the generator home hookup so you don't fry the guy fixing the power lines.
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Keith-N-Dar
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Seanl ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Sep 2011 Location: Fredericton NB Online Status: Offline Posts: 633 |
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I had to read this a couple of times to figure out what you did. I think you created a ground loop. The ground loop creates a voltage between your ground pin and the neutral in your shore power which trips your cgfi. The way you need to do this is to put in a switch so that you can switch between shore power and and inverter power. This is safety issue as well because the way you have it I think you would energise the shore power cord when the inverter was on.
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Sean, 2011 Rpod RP-173,2009 Jeep Liberty Rocky Mountain Edition
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Keith-N-Dar ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Location: Mayville, WI Online Status: Offline Posts: 1447 |
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If the inverter AC leads are lifted from the breaker you installed in the Pod and the problem goes away look for a ground path in the output side of the inverter. Without prints I can't guess at what you have. Doug is most likely more able to help on this, but assuming correct hookup there may be some incompatibility between the inverter and ground power (such as a path to ground that trips your GFCI.
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Keith-N-Dar
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compubmw ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Location: Tucson, AZ Online Status: Offline Posts: 10 |
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If the Inverter AC is disconnected, there is no issue.
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2009 FJ CRUISER (ARB BUMPER, Rear Airlift 1000, and some other stuff)
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Keith-N-Dar ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Location: Mayville, WI Online Status: Offline Posts: 1447 |
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Your installation has created a ground path that didn't exist before. I would start with the connection from the inverter to the AC side of the Pod. Lift those connections and see if the breaker still trips.
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Keith-N-Dar
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compubmw ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Location: Tucson, AZ Online Status: Offline Posts: 10 |
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Modified sine wave. When the inverter is off, both its 110 and 12 breakers tripped, I plugged the shore power line into the house and it popped the house's GFCI.
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techntrek ![]() Admin Group - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9062 |
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Is this a modified sine wave or pure sine wave inverter? Is the pod plugged into a GFCI, or do you mean the GFCI inside the pod?
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